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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Carmarthenshire => Wales => Carmarthenshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: strictlysnoopy on Wednesday 08 August 18 10:38 BST (UK)
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I have reached a wall concerning my 3 x great grandfather . Llangeler church was the family church. From parish records I have his marriage to Grace Davies March 1815 and his burial 1874 but I cannot find his baptism nor his parents,siblings. Can you help
Thanks
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Hi.. had a look around .. is Thomas Davies a relation to Grace Davies .. I believe Davids daughter Elizabeth Evans is on the 1841 census with Thomas and Mary Davies in llangeler carmarthenshire
census H0107 1383 50.......
Still trawling for your david he married grace by banns on 5th March 1815.....are you able to get the marriage certificate or contact the church or the local library for further details ?..
Best of luck..
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Thank you. His marriage and buriel are well documented with photos from the original church records, but his baptism/christening is not to be found, which I find strange as the whole family were so well associated with Llangeler church. Are the church records still kept at churches? I have tried to contact the vicar but received no reply as I have trolled the graveyard without success and would like to know where he is buried. Is there another way of finding his parents other than his birth/ baptism?
Regards
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Duh!! Of course his parents would/ should be named on the marriage certificate, shouldn't they?
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not before civil registration which started in 1837 and then only name & occupation of father. Parish records from that time are unlikely to still be in the church, they should be at the county archives. There may have a plan of the churchyard. Just because there is a burial doesn't mean there is a gravestone. It was beyond the means of many families.
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Hi there Osprey, perhaps you don't remember but I offered to buy you a drink thinking you followed the Welsh Ospreys rugby team😁 Anyway thank you for your post, I would have thought, although perhaps wrongly, that they would have money as the family were wool manufactures and weavers employing men and servants also David was also a butcher living in a dwelling on the high street in Newcastleemlyn. Any other ideas?
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Have you looked at ancestry.co.uk ..there are two people researching David Evans and Grace Davies....Both have his dob as 1792..
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Yes, I have his birth but no record. I would like to find his parents any ideas?
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well, there isn't a baptism in Llangeler for a David Evans at that period. But there are possibles in the neighbouring parishes
bp 26 March 1792 in Llanfihangel ar Arth David son of Walter Evan of Pantmawr
bp 31 Jan 1808, born 8 Aug 1796, David son of David Evan of Penlan and baptised same day to same father Sarah born 1798 & Daniel born 1800, a previous David had ben baptised in 1794
bp 29 May? 1791 in Cynwyl Elfed David the son of John Evan & his Mary his wife
Have you tried checking Evans wills from Llangeler ?
https://www.library.wales/discover/nlw-resources/wills/
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Thank you. Will definitely look into these over the weekend, fingers and toes crossed.
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;D found a birth 13th March 1791 carmarthen , carmarthenshire David Evans ... parents Thomas Evans and Sarah.......
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Hi Jui and thank you. Where O where did you find this, I've been looking for years.
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familysearch.. rg4 -3942.. any help don't be afraid to ask..
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the 1791 entry shows the family as living in St Peter's, Carmarthen. I though your David was from Llangeler?
http://web.archive.org/web/20060821223152/http://www.dyfedfhs.org.uk/maps/cmnmap.gif
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Llangeler is the place of birth on the census, so I assumed that this was without doubt correct. ( it's on all the census found). Grace his wife was born in Penboyr, yet they married in Llangeler church, so again I assumed that Llangeler was important to the Evans family, all children are baptised here as well, most probably I'm totally wrong.
Regards
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So, probably not the baptism to Thomas & Sarah from 1791 then.
The marriage was in Penboyr parish church, David noted as of Llangeler.
Daughter Hannah was baptised in Penboyr 30 Jan 1825, David noted as butcher, address Pantycoed.
Son David baptised in Penboyr 7 Sep 1828, father David butcher and address Pantycoed.
Baptisms tended to be in the nearest parish church within a few weeks of birth.
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Which tree I'm barking up I don't know but it's obviously the wrong one.
Thank you for the recent information will do my best to research them. We are down in Cardigan this week so I have to make the journey to either Carmarthen or Aberystwyth and request the pertinent archives.
I noticed that your information comes from national archives.gov. Do you find this site the best?
Regardso
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that's just a notice about copyright that everyone shows. The info about baptisms & marriages is a mix of FreeReg & FindmyPast.
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I find familysearch.org very good and free.. also genuki ( carmarthenshire in strictlys case ) but rootschat excellent.. always someone willing to do a search for you for census details etc..