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Title: can you please add any further information
Post by: pritchardgeo on Wednesday 08 August 18 17:29 BST (UK)
i have an ancestor thomas williams born abt 1814 falmouth
married in 1837 to jane nicholson in stoke damerel
1851 and 1861 has him living in stoke damerel and head of house and greenwich pensioner

please do you have any further information than this and from scant records i assume he was in the royal navy.
there is one record i found online giving a thomas williams aboard h.m.s viper in the early 1830s
but unsure if this is the same person

any information would be appreciated. thank you
brian
Title: Re: can you please add any further information
Post by: PaulineJ on Wednesday 08 August 18 19:33 BST (UK)
So what occupation did he have at 1837? 1841? 1851?

1871 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5RH-HR7
1861 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7Y5-FHF

1851? https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGJW-V6M (where is the father? )
Title: Re: can you please add any further information
Post by: pritchardgeo on Wednesday 08 August 18 19:42 BST (UK)
he is not on the 1851 census maybe in service
1861 and 1871 greenwich pensioner
Title: Re: can you please add any further information
Post by: pritchardgeo on Wednesday 08 August 18 19:46 BST (UK)
the thomas williams on the 1851 census is a son
Title: Re: can you please add any further information
Post by: pritchardgeo on Wednesday 08 August 18 19:48 BST (UK)
i may be wrong but think he may have served a full term in the royal navy
Title: Re: can you please add any further information
Post by: PaulineJ on Wednesday 08 August 18 19:54 BST (UK)
So what occupation did he have at 1837 marriage? Birth of the kids?

Looked for baptisms?
Searched 1851 for him elsewhere?
Title: Re: can you please add any further information
Post by: pritchardgeo on Wednesday 08 August 18 20:39 BST (UK)
thank you
Title: Re: can you please add any further information
Post by: osprey on Wednesday 08 August 18 20:56 BST (UK)
baptism of Cornelius 5 July 1857 shows Thomas as mariner, as does that of Harriet in 1851.
Marriage in 1837 was in March so before the start of civil registration and no details given for father.

Possible baptism in Mylor, very near Falmouth

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=baptisms&id=606729
Title: Re: can you please add any further information
Post by: pritchardgeo on Thursday 09 August 18 13:36 BST (UK)
thank you for the information
will follow your advice and get hold of the marriage cert which may in turn show his ship at that time.
yes that could be the baptism but not to sure
thanks again for looking
am going through some files on the national archives to see if i find anything
brian
Title: Re: can you please add any further information
Post by: josey on Thursday 09 August 18 13:47 BST (UK)
get hold of the marriage cert
As osprey pointed out, this is before civil registration so no GRO certificate sadly.
Title: Re: can you please add any further information
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 09 August 18 13:57 BST (UK)
1837 Marriage licence
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6GN9-6KH
Title: Re: can you please add any further information
Post by: pritchardgeo on Thursday 09 August 18 17:22 BST (UK)
thats amazing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
brilliant so happy thank you.
have read hms viper was a ship thats played a part in the suppression of the slave trade great find thank you. made my day
brian
Title: Re: can you please add any further information
Post by: crimea1854 on Thursday 09 August 18 19:25 BST (UK)
This is the service record of a Thomas Williams who served on HMS Viper between 1835 & March 1837 : http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C8986970 (http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C8986970). If you have a subscription to A******y you can also view it there.

Martin
Title: Re: can you please add any further information
Post by: pritchardgeo on Thursday 09 August 18 21:05 BST (UK)
thanks for all your help martin will follow this up