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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: Timbottawa on Thursday 09 August 18 08:23 BST (UK)
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Not entirely sure I'm on the right board, but ... if anyone has access to the 1832 Directory for Manchester & Salford (Pigot & Son), can you please check if there is an entry for James Boyle, likely a cork-cutter, and possibly living at Hanging Ditch.
I know he was there by 1835, and am trying to narrow down when he arrived in Manchester from Yorkshire.
Thanks
Tim
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I can't help directly I'm afraid but this site may be of use if you haven't come across it before
http://specialcollections.le.ac.uk/cdm/search/collection/p16445coll4
The directories are all searchable and downloadable
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Thanks Cristeen ... no, it does not appear to be on that site.
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He's listed in the Manchester Times of 2 November 1833 (page 1) as one of 80 newly elected commissioners for "cleansing, lighting, watching, and regulating the town of Manchester": James Boyle, Hanging Ditch.
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Thanks Shaun ... that's interesting ... he was only 30 at the time, and being a cork-cutter, not particularly high in society. He was very focused on social issues, though - his brother, Humphrey, was a leading Chartist, and James himself a committed Unitarian, so very concerned about individuals seeking to improve themselves. His obituary in 1845 made mention of this trait, so I can quite see him as a commissioner. He was also a poet - I have collected several of his poems.
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I wondered if he was a Chartist. The name James Boyle appears on a petition published in the Manchester Times of 17 September 1831 calling for a public meeting in support of the Reform Bill.
In his wife's 1843 death announcement he is a cork manufacturer.
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OK ... I'm sure it's the same fellow, so that pushes back his arrival in Manchester another 2 years.
His oldest sister had married Charles Marston, of a long-standing cork-cutting family in Leeds. There was a cork-cutting Marston (William) located in Hanging Ditch, Manchester by the late 1820's, so my running theory is that James was sent, possibly as an apprentice, with a brother-in-law to extend the cork-cutting empire into Lancashire :)
His Chartist brother, Humphrey, was of such standing in the movement that he ran Richard Carlile's publishing company when during Carlile's imprisonment (for which I believe Humphrey himself was also imprisoned).
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1834 entry
Baptism: 28 Jul 1834 Collegiate, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Emma Boyle - Daughter of James Boyle & Harriet
Abode: Manch.
Occupation: Cork Cutter
Baptised by: R. Remington
Register: Baptisms 1834, Page 421, Entry 3361
Source: LDS Film 2357018
Baptism: 7 Dec 1835 Collegiate, Manchester, Lancashire, England
William Massey Boyle - Son of James Boyle & Harriet
Abode: Manch.
Occupation: Cork Cutter
Baptised by: H. Fielding
Register: Baptisms 1835 - 1836, Page 693, Entry 5542
Source: LDS Film 2357018
so - do we presume by Williams baptism that Harriet maiden name was Massey ?...do you know where James Boyle and Harriet married - was it Yorkshire or Lancashire ?
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BT's on ancestry
James Keer/Kerr Boyle, cork cutter married Harriet Walker, spinster, at St John Church Manchester
26 December 1831
Witness Frederick Woodcock, Elizabeth MASSEY
The Massey name has a family connection via the witness.
another transcription has his name as James Kees Boyle
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Thanks garstonite and amongd
I don't know where Massey comes from. The witness at the marriage could be a blood relative of Harriet - perhaps an aunt? It could be Harriet's mother's maiden name? Definitely not from the Boyle side.
William Massey Boyle's story is a tragic one. Orphaned at the age of 10, he became a successful wine merchant - by 1871, the family had a servant, but he was forced into bankruptcy in 1875, and both he and his wife died in 1879, leaving 4 orphans aged 7-12
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who did William Massey Boyle marry ?
Williams death registered in Prestwich aged 44 - the only Boyle in that year 1879 in Prestwich - so where did his wife die /...just curious why they weren't both in the same area -
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Sarah Broome, from Stockton.
In 1881, the oldest and youngest of his 4 orphaned children are living with their aunts, Emma and Isabella Boyle; the older son is living with his maternal grandfather, John Broome, in Stockton, but the 2nd daughter/3rd child is in the Warehousemen and Clerks Orphans School at Cheadle. For the life of me, I can't figure out how 3 of the children were with relatives and the 4th in an orphanage!
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Sorry ... I missed the 2nd half of your message. Sarah died in Stockton in 1st Q of 1879. It's tempting to think that the bankruptcy led to a separation, which is why he died in Prestwick