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Title: Clarice May Carter 1894
Post by: bobtonks on Friday 10 August 18 13:51 BST (UK)
Clarice Carter was born in 1894. In 1901 she was living with her parents, Alfred & Elizabeth, in Histon.

Can anyone see a record of her after 1901?
Title: Re: Clarice May Carter 1894
Post by: Christine53 on Friday 10 August 18 14:09 BST (UK)
There is a Miss Clarice May Carter, 33 , parlourmaid , of 55 Fitzjohn's Avenue , Hampstead , departing 13th October 1927 on the SS Bendigo bound for Australia.

I haven't spotted her in 1911 so far.
Title: Re: Clarice May Carter 1894
Post by: Christine53 on Friday 10 August 18 14:26 BST (UK)
This is the only suitable Clarice born Cambridgeshire in 1911 that I could find. I wondered if she's simply had her name filled in incorrectly :

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWLM-6HW
Title: Re: Clarice May Carter 1894
Post by: bobtonks on Friday 10 August 18 15:13 BST (UK)
Christine

1911 looks good. Ticks three boxes .... Clarice - 1895 - & Histon.

1927 - looks spot on. I wonder if she married after reaching Australia?

Thanks for looking.

Bob
Title: Re: Clarice May Carter 1894
Post by: Christine53 on Friday 10 August 18 15:21 BST (UK)
Christine


1933 - maybe lied about her age but otherwise looks spot on. I wonder if she married after reaching Australia?

Thanks for looking.

Bob

The voyage was in 1927 when she was 33 - doesn't that make her born in 1894 ?

There are a couple of possible marriages , without details , on Indexes. It might be worth posting on the Australia board as the RootsChatters there have other resources at their disposal, just make sure to link to your original post.
Title: Re: Clarice May Carter 1894
Post by: bobtonks on Friday 10 August 18 15:24 BST (UK)
Christine

Sorry about that. Brain had a malfunction.

Bob
Title: Re: Clarice May Carter 1894
Post by: Christine53 on Friday 10 August 18 15:30 BST (UK)
I know the feeling !  ;D

Christine
Title: Re: Clarice May Carter 1894
Post by: bobtonks on Friday 24 August 18 08:28 BST (UK)
How do I move this thread to the Australia Board ?
Title: Re: Clarice May Carter 1894
Post by: Christine53 on Friday 24 August 18 13:12 BST (UK)
Click on "report to moderator " , bottom right of your post , and ask for it to be moved in the message line which will open.

Good luck !
Title: Re: Clarice May Carter 1894
Post by: jorose on Friday 24 August 18 22:17 BST (UK)
It appears the SS Bendigo had an accident in transit and the passengers were transferred to another ship, the Balranald.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/79515491?searchTerm=%22SS%20Bendigo%22

Carter, Miss Clarice, is among a list of passengers on the Balranald to Freemantle (WA).
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/78967348?searchTerm="Carter%20Miss%20Clarice"

https://www.bdm.justice.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx
 Clarice M. Carter married William G. Steddy, 1930 in Freemantle

Possible death in 1950 "Clarice May Steddy"
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/47878535?searchTerm=Clarice%20Steddy
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/201845231?searchTerm=Clarice%20Steddy

http://www.ozburials.com/CemsWA/Brookton/brookton.htm
 Buried in Brookton -  aged 56.
Title: Re: Clarice May Carter 1894
Post by: valerie kehoe on Saturday 25 August 18 01:08 BST (UK)
Clarice May Carter & William George Steddy (b1890 York WA) m 1930 Fremantle

Joseph W Steddy  (son).  He married Gloria Draper.

Clarice died 1930 Beverley WA.

Valerie
Albany
WAus
Title: Re: Clarice May Carter 1894
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 25 August 18 05:01 BST (UK)

Clarice May Carter & William George Steddy (b1890 York WA) m 1930 Fremantle

****** Steddy  (son) 1930.  He married ****** **** 1952.

Clarice died 1930 Beverley WA.

Valerie
Albany
WAus

Valerie would you mind quoting your source for the birth you have given above for William George STEDDY?

There was a birth in that year.
STEDDY William George
Father Edward William
Mother BEESON Charlotte Elizabeth
At York
1265 /1890

This man married
STEDDY William G
FELLOWS   Mary G
Perth
1000   /1922

Engagment notice
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/211276641

The couple remained married and celebrated their pearl wedding anniversary in 1952
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/211276641

Are the couple you mention as son and daughter in law of Clarice STEDDY deceased?

If not you should delete their names from you post. ;)

Sue
Title: Re: Clarice May Carter 1894
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 25 August 18 05:30 BST (UK)

Hi again Valerie
This item announcing the engagment makes it clear that the man you have cited as son of Wiliam George STEDDY  was the son of Joseph STEDDY.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/48988221

Sue
Title: Re: Clarice May Carter 1894
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 25 August 18 06:00 BST (UK)
Here is the birth of Joseph

STEDDY Joseph Henry
Father   Edward
Mother BEESON Charlotte
Fremantle
876 /1893

So Joseph Henry STEDDY and William George STEDDY were brothers.

Their ww1 service records confirms details to support this with addresses and father as NOK.

Sue
Title: Re: Clarice May Carter 1894
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 25 August 18 06:19 BST (UK)
The WW! service record digitised shows Joseph Henry STEDDY was born 1894 and father Edward William STEDDY was NOK at Walton Farm Bulading via Collie. He joined the 28th Battallion.

He married in 1921 to Charlotte Gibbs.

March 1921, J H Steddy late sergeant 28th battalion AIF married Miss Charlotte Gibbs
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/211277434

Sue

ADDING
There was another William George STEDDY in Western Australia.
This is the index of his ww2 record


Army
STEDDY, WILLIAM GEORGE 
Service No. WX2330
DoB  16 Dec 1906
Place of Birth CANTERBURY, ENGLAND
Date of Enlistment 25 Apr 1940
Place of Enlistment NORTHAM, WA
Living at NEMBUDDING
NOK HARDING, ALICE
Date of Discharge 4 Oct 1945
Rank Private
Posting at Discharge 2/11 Battalion
POW Yes

Sue

Title: Re: Clarice May Carter 1894
Post by: valerie kehoe on Saturday 25 August 18 06:51 BST (UK)
Joseph Henry Steddy -was brother of William George Steddy
(parents Edward Wm & Charlotte Elizabeth)

Info from 'West Aus on-line Indexes' (Dept of Justice BD&M)

William George Steddy had married previously (as shown) -  Clarice was his 2nd wife.

Valerie
Albany
WAus
Title: Re: Clarice May Carter 1894
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 25 August 18 07:22 BST (UK)



William George Steddy had married previously (as shown) -  Clarice was his 2nd wife.

Valerie
Albany
WAus
No.
The man who was the brother of Joseph Henry STEDDY named William George STEDDY , both sons of Edward William STEDDY, did not marry twice.


Please read information I have posted. particularly reply#11
He and his wife are interred together.
She died in 1975

West Australian Electoral Roll.
1931 to 1943 shows
CARTER, Clarice May
Milroy, Brookton. Home Duties

Sue
Title: Re: Clarice May Carter 1894
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 25 August 18 07:30 BST (UK)
Shipping Departures from England. To Australia.

Ship Berrima, embarked 12th March 1925.
STEDDY, William G. Last address , 64 Northgate St, Canterbury, Kent
Aged 23
Salesman

Title: Re: Clarice May Carter 1894
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 25 August 18 07:47 BST (UK)
There is a return voyage to England for this man in 1930

Ship Ballarat. Arrived London June 12th 1930
STEDDY, William
A farmer aged 28
Intended address 64 Northgate  st, Canterbury Kent.
Country of last residence Australia.
Intended future residence, other parts of the UK.


Sue

ADDING
Some information gathered in 1911 shows the Northgate St Canterbury address was the home of William George STEDDY's widowded mother aged 35.
Title: Re: Clarice May Carter 1894
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 28 August 18 00:10 BST (UK)
Hello Bob
I notice that despite having been online in the last days, you have not responded  on this thread.

Sue
Title: Re: Clarice May Carter 1894
Post by: bobtonks on Tuesday 28 August 18 15:34 BST (UK)
Sue
I'm sorry if I have been evasive. I have read the posts a number of times trying to sort through all these 'Steddys'.
Am I correct in thinking that Claris May Carter arrived in Australia  December 1927 aboard the SS Balranald. She possibly married William George Steddy in 1930  and if so she probably died in 1950, age 55 years.

Although there is a record that shows Clarice May Carter living Brookton 1931 - 1943 !!! Is there a death recorded?

All very intriguing.

Bob

Thanks
Title: Re: Clarice May Carter 1894
Post by: Rhonda May on Wednesday 29 August 18 01:43 BST (UK)
Mentioned in reply #9  http://www.ozburials.com/CemsWA/waus.htm
Clarice May STEDDY named in  Brookton Cemetery records

Interesting death in the UK

Deaths Dec qrtr 1980  CANTERBURY  16/400
STEDDY  William George  b. 16 Dec 1901 

Posted by Sue in Reply #14
There was another William George STEDDY in Western Australia.
This is the index of his ww2 record

Army
STEDDY, WILLIAM GEORGE 
Service No. WX2330
DoB  16 Dec 1906
Place of Birth CANTERBURY, ENGLAND
Date of Enlistment 25 Apr 1940
Place of Enlistment NORTHAM, WA
Living at NEMBUDDING
NOK HARDING, ALICE
Date of Discharge 4 Oct 1945
Rank Private
Posting at Discharge 2/11 Battalion
POW Yes


Rhonda
Title: Re: Clarice May Carter 1894
Post by: Rhonda May on Wednesday 29 August 18 03:30 BST (UK)
The other William George STEDDY......
When this man enlisted for WW2 he was not living at Milroy Farm, Brookton with Clarice M STEDDY.

A passenger from Southampton to Fremantle on the ship Jervis Bay who arrived 8 Jan 1932......maybe the chap who went back to the UK for 18 months?
Mr William G STEDDY, a farmer, aged 29.
Country of last residence, England   
Intended future residence, Australia.


Rhonda
Title: Re: Clarice May Carter 1894
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 29 August 18 07:13 BST (UK)
Hi Bob,
Rhonda May has highlighted some points and further to her thoughts....
Clarice arrived as suggested per Balranald and married in 1930 to William George STEDDY born Canterbury, Kent. {NOT from the STEDDY family of which Edward William STEDDY was patriach}

He returned to Canterbury, Kent arriving in London June 1930 and gave a future address as being  the same as 1925 which had been his mother's home.
In 1922 his widowed mother had remarried.
She now has the name of William George STEDDY's next of Kin on enlistment. Alice HARDING.

Marriages Sep 1922   

Arthur HARDING      
Alice M STEDDY         
2a/2494Canterbury

Clarice in Western Australia,reverted to her maiden name of CARTER and was living at a large property in Brookton, Beverley known as Milroy Farm owned by one R L S Crawfrod.

Returning to Australia William was living at Nembudding, a good distance from Brookton. He took some years of his age when he enlisted.

His mother's  was HAYWOOD EDIT  HAYWARD and this is the maiden surname on this birth.
Births Mar 1902   
 
STEEDY William George
MMN HAYWARD  (Matches maiden name on marriage to STEDDY 1900)
Canterbury
2a/880



I think he was back in England after the war and we can look there for signs of him, but there is a possible  re-marriage for him in 1964, well after the death of Clarice.

This death may or may not have relevance to Clarice.
STEDDY, Stillborn Male
Beverley REG 42
Year    1934

 
Sue