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Title: hearn family - stuck need some help please
Post by: liver007 on Friday 10 August 18 14:27 BST (UK)
I know it is easy to give up on tracing family but I am afraid I might have gone down the wrong track regarding my side of the family tree (Hearn),  I have gone as far as I can to:


John Hearn - Mary Durant   I am OK with the Durrant side of the family
DOB: 1771 Suffolk
Died: 27 April 1840
Worlingworth Suffolk
1832 Living in Earl Soham Suffolk
I just cant get further back in the family line Beyond John I do need some help ..I know John and Mary married on the 23 April 1799 I do not have a copy of their marriage cert and as such don't know John's fathers details


Thank you Keith Hearn
Title: Re: hearn family - stuck need some help please
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 10 August 18 14:33 BST (UK)
Fathers details will not be on the 1799 Marriage. If you are lucky you may get witnesses names.

The 1840 Death for John.
GRO has him as age 65 (1775)

As he died before 1841 Census (6 June) it is hard to know if he was born in Suffolk.
Title: Re: hearn family - stuck need some help please
Post by: liver007 on Friday 10 August 18 14:45 BST (UK)
Thanks for the date of 1775 Trish

Keith
Title: Re: hearn family - stuck need some help please
Post by: emeltom on Friday 10 August 18 15:22 BST (UK)
Closest I can find is

John Hearn baptised 15 January 1776 Boxford, parents John and Frances

I notice that on the entry I have found for his marriage to Mary, it gives his parish as Yoxford. I wonder if that is a mistake in transcription.

Emeltom
Title: Re: hearn family - stuck need some help please
Post by: liver007 on Friday 10 August 18 16:28 BST (UK)
Emeltom

Yes it certainly looks like the same John Hearn..

It is interesting because reaching other members of the Hearn family Yoxford comes up frequently


Keith
Title: Re: hearn family - stuck need some help please
Post by: liver007 on Friday 10 August 18 16:30 BST (UK)
Closest I can find is

John Hearn baptised 15 January 1776 Boxford, parents John and Frances

I notice that on the entry I have found for his marriage to Mary, it gives his parish as Yoxford. I wonder if that is a mistake in transcription.

Emeltom


Could Boxford be a transcript error for Yoxford ??

Keith
Title: Re: hearn family - stuck need some help please
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 11 August 18 15:37 BST (UK)
Marriage;
19 November 1771, Boxford, Suffolk
John HEARN to Frances PINDER

If you search Familysearch.Org for children to John/Frances some were christened Boxford;
John 1776
William 1777
Walter 1779
Others appear as Groton;
Sarah 1772, buried 1772
Sarah 1782
Thomas 1783
Frances 1784, buried 1785
Benjamin 1784, buried 1784
Frances 1787 (Parents John and Frances Pander Hearn)
Joseph 1788, buried 1788 (Father John/Mother as Frances Ponder Hearn)
Title: Re: hearn family - stuck need some help please
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 11 August 18 16:08 BST (UK)
Good age for John!


John Hearn
Burial Date 03 Dec 1835
Burial Place Groton, Suffolk, England
Age 90
(c 1746)

Possible for Frances;
Frances Hearn
Burial Date 12 Apr 1801
Death Place England
Marital Status   Married
Spouse's Name   John Hearn

FRANCES Ponder christened 02 JUN 1744 Groton to WALTER/SARAH
Title: Re: hearn family - stuck need some help please
Post by: liver007 on Saturday 11 August 18 16:34 BST (UK)
Thanks Trish

I am doing some some family history work later today so will look at yiur results


Keith
Title: Re: hearn family - stuck need some help please
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 11 August 18 17:45 BST (UK)
No problem off to bed for me :)
Title: Re: hearn family - stuck need some help please
Post by: liver007 on Saturday 11 August 18 18:12 BST (UK)
No problem off to bed for me :)

Ok have a nice sleep
Title: Re: hearn family - stuck need some help please
Post by: gobbitt on Tuesday 14 August 18 20:26 BST (UK)
John HEARN's parish was definitely recorded as Yoxford in the register at Middleton, where he married Mary DURRANT (otp) by banns on 23 April 1799. Both were single and made x mark, in the presence of Mary Ann COLE, who signed her name, as did Samuel CULLING (a frequent witness, probably unrelated).

Keith, did you manage to rule out John HURREN (bapt. Kelsale 1775)? (Last month's topic:  http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=796779.msg6537597#msg6537597.)

David
Title: Re: hearn family - stuck need some help please
Post by: liver007 on Wednesday 15 August 18 11:59 BST (UK)
David,

Sorry for the delay I have only "picked" up my family tree work in the last couple of weeks.  The direct answer to your question is no I haven't.

I have managed to trace back John Hearn and Mary Durrant.  From there I have traced Johns Father also a John Hearn DOB: 1745 died Groton buried 3 Dec 1835 and his wife Frances Pinder bab 2 Jun 1744 buried 12 Apr 1801.  I am trying to trace John Hearn 1745 his father.  So it seems I have traced the Hearn family as far back as 1745.


Keith
Title: Re: hearn family - stuck need some help please
Post by: gobbitt on Wednesday 15 August 18 17:45 BST (UK)
Keith

I'm not so sure the Groton family is yours. That conjecture seems to hinge on a baptism at Boxford in 1776.

Since Yoxford was not mistranscribed from the Middleton marriage register, and Kelsale is adjacent to both of those parishes (whereas Boxford is about 40 miles away), I think your time would be better spent researching the HEARN / HURREN family of Kelsale.

David
Title: Re: hearn family - stuck need some help please
Post by: liver007 on Thursday 16 August 18 08:23 BST (UK)
David

Thanks for the update I shall take a look ..


Keith
Title: Re: hearn family - stuck need some help please
Post by: pcates on Monday 10 September 18 21:39 BST (UK)
Marriage;
19 November 1771, Boxford, Suffolk
John HEARN to Frances PINDER

If you search Familysearch.Org for children to John/Frances some were christened Boxford;
John 1776
William 1777
Walter 1779
Others appear as Groton;
Sarah 1772, buried 1772
Sarah 1782
Thomas 1783
Frances 1784, buried 1785
Benjamin 1784, buried 1784
Frances 1787 (Parents John and Frances Pander Hearn)
Joseph 1788, buried 1788 (Father John/Mother as Frances Ponder Hearn)

Hi All,

This is my first post here. I literally just stumbled upon this thread whilst doing a little family research of my own on John Hearn and Frances Pinder who would have been my 6th great-grandparents. I'm descended through their son William b: 1777, through a few more Williams, and into Canada where the Hearn line ends at my great-grandmother.  I'd definitely be interested in expanding the English end of my Hearn family tree, and am more than happy to share the Canadian side.  Cheers

- Philip
Title: Re: hearn family - stuck need some help please
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 12 September 18 11:38 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat Philip and its great you have found this query.

Trish  :)