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Title: Arthur and Annie Day in East London
Post by: becky1982 on Friday 10 August 18 15:24 BST (UK)
I´m desperately trying to find dates and/or a marriage record for Arthur Harold Day, born in Port Elizabeth in ca. 1906 and Annie Maria Johanna Fourie, dates unknown.
They lived in East London in the late 1920s, have a son and daughter, born 1928 and 1929.
They later moved to CT, where Arthur was an accountant and Annie is supposed to have died ca. 1935 but I have no records for this event either. Arthur died in 1946.
Are there any Day or Fourie relatives that know this couple? I´m trying to trace their ancestors.
Title: Re: Arthur and Annie Day in East London
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 10 August 18 16:41 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat

The only Arthur Day I can find was aged 20 and arrived Southampton from Durban 24.11.1925.  Address shown as 44 Eve Rd West Ham
Next entry on the same passenger list is a Henry James Day aged 46 but he gives an address in Plymouth


Just discovered there is an East London in SA so ignore all the above ::)
Title: Re: Arthur and Annie Day in East London
Post by: cath151 on Friday 10 August 18 16:51 BST (UK)
Hi
Welcome to Rootschat :)
Have you seen Arthurs probate on familysearch.org?
It seems to suggest he married again after his first wife  (Jean Day formerly Fourie)died in c 1935.
Gives a few more details but you may have this already, if not , I can post a link.

Cathy
Title: Re: Arthur and Annie Day in East London
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 10 August 18 17:03 BST (UK)
Good find Cath

Here's the link
    
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mhr/
Title: Re: Arthur and Annie Day in East London
Post by: cath151 on Friday 10 August 18 17:26 BST (UK)
Oh well done Carol, could nt find Annies death, so she seems to have been born in Shropshire.
Arthurs probate is also on there, though I see Annie was  77 years old in 1942  ...hmmm

Cathy
Title: Re: Arthur and Annie Day in East London
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 10 August 18 17:34 BST (UK)
Something not right there.  Annie was 77 in 1942 so born c1865 yet post says Arthur was born 1906??

Was she his mother?

There is an East London SA marriage in 1944 between Arthur Henry Day and Isabell Anderson nee Bryce on Family Search



Title: Re: Arthur and Annie Day in East London
Post by: cath151 on Friday 10 August 18 19:21 BST (UK)
It says husband A H Day on the probate papers
Here is the link to Arthurs Probate
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C913-896B-D?i=1000&cc=2517051
Could be his mother

Cathy


 
Title: Re: Arthur and Annie Day in East London
Post by: cath151 on Friday 10 August 18 19:33 BST (UK)
There is a family tree on Ancestry giving details of the family, Arthurs parents given as Harold Birkbeck Day and Charlotte Anne Murray
Cathy
Title: Re: Arthur and Annie Day in East London
Post by: becky1982 on Friday 24 August 18 16:48 BST (UK)
Thanks for the feedback. I have a tree on family search with AH Day (my maternal grandfather) and the probate record is the only document I have with an approx. birth year. Arthur Harold DAY is my grandfather and I can't find any paper trail for him besides this probate record.

His wife, my maternal grandmother, Annie Maria Johanna Fourie hasn´t any entries anywhere either, that I can find. I´m trying to establish whether his father was Harold Birkbeck DAY born in Ripley,Derbyshire - son of Arthur DAY, born 1856 in Bedfordshire, England.

The naming pattern seems to be an accurate indicator but without documented verification, I´m stuck.
Title: Re: Arthur and Annie Day in East London
Post by: lynbowie on Monday 08 October 18 20:49 BST (UK)
Hi, I don't know how far you have got with Anna Maria Johanna Fourie, but there is plenty of info on her line on thei net. She was born 31st May 1889 in Brandfort in the Orange Free State. Her father was Coenraad Fredrick Fourie and her mother Anna Catherina Marx. This was one of the Vootrekker families who left Graaf Reniet in the Eastern Cape to trek north to escape the rule of the British.
The line began with the immigrant brothers Petrus and David, sons of Louis Fourie and Anna Jordaan, who came to the Cape. They each have their own well documented lines.
My grandmother was also of this line. Also a Fourie, her second name was also Johanna. I was brought up in East London, South Africa.
I have more on this family but there will be plenty if you put her family into Wiki.
Good luck. Lyn.
Title: Re: Arthur and Annie Day in East London
Post by: lynbowie on Monday 08 October 18 20:52 BST (UK)
Correction... She was my father's Grandmother. My great Grandmother! Lyn.
Title: Re: Arthur and Annie Day in East London
Post by: becky1982 on Tuesday 09 October 18 11:15 BST (UK)
Hi Lyn,
thanks for this information. I saw her baptism certificate on family search but thought she might have been too old as my grandfather was born ca 1906, according to his probate record dated 1946. I have absolutely no information about her or her family though and I´d be very interested to find out any more that you may know about her or her family,  could you send me a PM, please? TIA
Title: Re: Arthur and Annie Day in East London
Post by: lynbowie on Tuesday 09 October 18 11:51 BST (UK)
Hi, how did you come upon her name in connection with your family? She is the generation before, but could easily have given birth to your grandfather or grandmother. Where did you see her name?
Lyn.
Title: Re: Arthur and Annie Day in East London
Post by: lynbowie on Tuesday 09 October 18 12:16 BST (UK)
Actually, it would have to be a male relative, probably a brother, who gave birth to her. She may have been named after her aunt. That would make the generations fit. My great grandmother was Maria Aletta Johanna Fourie. I have a couple of portrait photos of her. My tree is on Ancestry.co .uk.
Where are you living?
Lyn.
Title: Re: Arthur and Annie Day in East London
Post by: becky1982 on Tuesday 09 October 18 18:59 BST (UK)
Hi Lyn,
Her name appears on my mum´s baptism certificate - dd Dec 1928, in East London - Church of Immaculate Conception and then her name appears on my maternal grandfather´s probate record (1946- her husband)- a note in the margin states that the former wife died ca. 11 years before - 1935 which tallies with what my mum believed - the mother "left" them when my mum was about 7. Her father obviously didn´t say she´d died.
I´m on family search but not on ancestry
Title: Re: Arthur and Annie Day in East London
Post by: becky1982 on Tuesday 09 October 18 19:00 BST (UK)
I´m in Germany