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Title: Enoch Smith 1873 Darlaston
Post by: tresario on Friday 10 August 18 21:30 BST (UK)
Please can you help me find what happened to this fella please, my great uncle Enoch Smith. Here he is in 1881 census. I understand he went to America but returned. I can't find anything about him. Please can you help?
Enoch Smith
Age:   8
Estimated Birth Year:   abt 1873
Relationship to Head:   Son
Father:   Samuel Smith
Mother:   Mary Ann Smith
Gender:   Male
Where born:   Darlaston, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish:   Harborne
County/Island:   Staffordshire
Country:   England
Street address:   No 39 Grove Lane
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation:   Scholar
Registration district:   Kings Norton
Title: Re: Enoch Smith 1873 Darlaston
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 10 August 18 22:58 BST (UK)
He is with his parents in 1891
Title: Re: Enoch Smith 1873 Darlaston
Post by: tresario on Friday 10 August 18 23:04 BST (UK)
Yes, I him with all the family in 1891. I just can't find what happened to him. Story is he went to America but returned to uk.
Title: Re: Enoch Smith 1873 Darlaston
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 10 August 18 23:07 BST (UK)
He is with his parents in 1891 but your post gives the impression you can't find him after 1881

What is the last census you have him on?
Title: Re: Enoch Smith 1873 Darlaston
Post by: tresario on Friday 10 August 18 23:09 BST (UK)
Sorry I meant to upload the 1891. It was just to confirm who he was. 1891 is the last one.
Title: Re: Enoch Smith 1873 Darlaston
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 10 August 18 23:11 BST (UK)
He is also on the 1911 but I can't see him in 1901.  The census dates help narrow any search for possible emigration

Suggest you check the 1911 entry as given the birthdate and birthplace of his eldest child he should be in England in 1901

Title: Re: Enoch Smith 1873 Darlaston
Post by: tresario on Friday 10 August 18 23:13 BST (UK)
No, I didn't know there was one. I'll look now thank you.  His brother Samuel went to to America and stayed there. I can't see him in 1911..there are various born in darlaston. I don't know the name of his wife, if he had one.
Title: Re: Enoch Smith 1873 Darlaston
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 10 August 18 23:16 BST (UK)
Here's the 1901 reference for him

RG13 Piece 3595 Folio 50 Page 34

Marriage in 1899 on freebmd
Title: Re: Enoch Smith 1873 Darlaston
Post by: tresario on Friday 10 August 18 23:22 BST (UK)
Where do I put that reference to see that please? In ancestry or family search?

So on bmd either Mary Ann hunt or Ellen horton?? Thank you Mary ann.

Looked on family search the marriage is not him. That ones father is Joseph. My Enochs dad is Samuel.
Title: Re: Enoch Smith 1873 Darlaston
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 11 August 18 00:00 BST (UK)
As his wife is Sarah in 1901 - why are you looking at a marriage to a Mary Ann or Ellen?  Look in Lancashire in 1899 which is where he was living in 1901 and 1911.  The marriage is on Family Search and clearly shows his father as Samuel

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Where do I put that reference to see that please? In ancestry or family search?

Ancestry
Title: Re: Enoch Smith 1873 Darlaston
Post by: tresario on Saturday 11 August 18 10:29 BST (UK)
Thank you CaroleW. I have only recently stated searching Family Search and clearly havent got a clue what I'm doing!
Any hints or tips to get me around the site would be gratefully received.
I found so much information for the family there,trying to get it all in my trees. Share my sister's UK only one in ancestry, and have my own world wide one on my heritage this year.
Thanks again for all your help its appreciated.
Title: Re: Enoch Smith 1873 Darlaston
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 11 August 18 10:57 BST (UK)
The 1899 marriage was at St George Tyldesley Lancs - see www.lancashirebmd.org.uk or www.freebmd.org.uk

The transcription is on Family Search

The 1901 census entry can be viewed on Ancestry or Family Search.  The reference I gave above can be used to find it on Ancestry or just use search criteria enoc* smith born Staffordshire birthyear 1873 plus or minus 2yrs

When using Family Search you have the option of choosing the type of record you are looking for - select TYPE then select CENSUS