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Title: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: zion on Saturday 11 August 18 09:06 BST (UK)
Hi Margaret and William were my great grand parents and they moved to N IRELAND but I know nothing about them only a marriage 20th Nov 1863 and had a child in 1864  in Scotland 
Thanks Zion
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: PaulineJ on Saturday 11 August 18 09:22 BST (UK)
What further information was on the scottish certificates?

www.scotlandspeople.com
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 11 August 18 09:50 BST (UK)
What further information was on the scottish certificates?

www.scotlandspeople.com

Wrong link, Pauline. It's

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk


Agree that all the info should be on the certs obtained from this site.


Gadget
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 11 August 18 09:57 BST (UK)
They married in Irvine

William's parents were James Conway, a mason and Sarah MS Dillan
Margaret's parents were James Robb, a coal miner, deceased, and Elizabeth MS McLachlan


Gadget

Added - Marriage 'according to the forms of the United Presbyterian Church'
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: zion on Saturday 11 August 18 11:45 BST (UK)
Thanks for the info  I wonder why they moved to Ireland ?  they had 5 children in Ireland in1867 Elizabeth Jane  my Granny} 1869 70 72 75  but neither William or Margaret are on the 1901 Ireland Census I wonder did they move back to Scotland?  regards zion
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 11 August 18 12:30 BST (UK)
Have you checked for deaths in Ireland:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

Also there are various sites that will have the Eng/Wales/Scot census for 1901. Have you checked these?


Gadget
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: ev on Saturday 11 August 18 13:00 BST (UK)
There's a son Samuel born 23rd July 1881 in Newtownwards Ireland , parents William James Conway and Margaret Robb.
Did Elizabeth marry Archibald Ramsay , 1890 Irvine Ayr ?
Perhaps the family were back in Scotland by then  :-\


ev

Added -
There's a death for a Margaret Conway(other surname Robb) , age 70 , 1914 Irvine Ayr.
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: ev on Saturday 11 August 18 13:36 BST (UK)
1891 Census index(595/ 4/ 6)
Irvine Ayr.
William Conway 48
Mrs Conway 45
Sarah Conway 19
James Conway 17
Martha Conway 14
Robert Conway 12
Samuel Conway 9
John Conway 3


ev
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: zion on Saturday 11 August 18 16:36 BST (UK)
Thanks
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: zion on Thursday 11 October 18 12:38 BST (UK)
hi EV, Elizabeth Conway married a Hugh Moore my granda   15th April 1884 over in Ireland in Newtownards  they stayed in Donaghadee area Regards Zion
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: DRSM on Saturday 08 December 18 13:30 GMT (UK)
We share these ancestors - my grandfather was Hugh Moore, son of Hugh Moore and Eliza Jane Conway (Lizzie). Very interested to hear from you - I have quite a lot of info on the Moore family from the 1911 census.
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: zion on Sunday 09 December 18 10:11 GMT (UK)
Hi DRSM  I have the 1901 and 1911 Cesus details of Moore in N Ireland  but what i have never found is the grave of Great granda John and Jane Moore their is a grave for Great great granda James Agnew Moore in Donaghadee grave yard  and one for granda Hugh and Elizabeth Jane Moore Are you in N ireland? Regards Zion
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: DRSM on Sunday 09 December 18 10:48 GMT (UK)
Yes, I’m back in NI after many years abroad and my dad’s house is a short stroll from that graveyard - Church of Ireland, right? I know we were all Presbyterians, so you’ve seen the Moore’s of Hogstown on the Census - there are a lot of Moores in various townlands around Donaghadee but ours are definitely Hogstown as it’s cited on my grandfather’s passage to Canada in 1925. That’s how I found which branch to trace. Which of my grandfather’s siblings are you descended from? I’ll be heading to the graveyard ASAP to find James Agnew Moore and I note someone else on this thread mentioned the grave of W C Moore died May 1918, stone erected by Hugh Moore of Hogstown, our great-grandfather. Can you give me any clues as to the graves approx location in the churchyard?

I’m very happy to pursue this and try to find the other graves etc.
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: DRSM on Sunday 09 December 18 10:55 GMT (UK)
Just remembered - John Moore (b.1824) and Jane Connaway (b.1828) we’re married in Ballycopeland Church (now gone). The graveyard is still there though and I’ve looked around it once but found no Moores or Conway’s. I will however check with the Minister of Millisle & Ballycopeland Church who may be able to help (unless you know more?)
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: zion on Sunday 09 December 18 12:48 GMT (UK)
Hi your grandfather Hugh Moore was my uncle  his brother Robert was my dad he is on the 1911 Census the youngest child  Hugh is buried in Ballyvester  if i knew when you were going to visit the Donaghadee Grave yard i could show you where the graves are i am in Donaghadee  3 times a day school runs with my grandkids
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: DRSM on Sunday 09 December 18 13:45 GMT (UK)
Thank you, that would be great! I could meet you in Donaghadee any day next week apart from Thursday and Friday, maybe just after you drop your grandkids? If you have the time, perhaps you could run your eye over the family tree I’ve drawn up so far and help with further info?
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: zion on Sunday 09 December 18 15:38 GMT (UK)
I can meet you  Monday morning at 9am at gates to the graveyard if that would suit
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: DRSM on Sunday 09 December 18 15:55 GMT (UK)
Yes, that suits. The gates at the Cannyreagh Road end or the Moat Street side?
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: zion on Sunday 09 December 18 21:01 GMT (UK)
The gates at Moat Street  wear suitable foot ware it can be very soggy in the Grave yard 
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: Rustypup on Sunday 09 December 18 23:42 GMT (UK)
Margaret Robb was the sister of my GG/grandmother Martha Robb. She was born in 1843 in Dundonald, Ayrshire.
Her parents James and Elizabeth McLachlan were married in 1838 in Dundonald.
Her mother Elizabeth was a widow and married William James Conway's brother Thomas Conway.
1861 Census 56 Townhead, Irvine
Thomas Coway 32 Grocer/Mason
Elizabeth          47 Wife
Martha.            19 Step daughter
Margaret.         17 Step daughter
Wm Jas Conway20 Brother


Rustypup
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: DRSM on Monday 10 December 18 07:20 GMT (UK)
Thank you, Zion - I may arrive a little after 9am, but I’ll be there!

And thank you, Rustypup - so good to be able to add another set of great-great-great- grandparents to the family tree.
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: Maiden Stone on Monday 10 December 18 13:43 GMT (UK)
DRSM and Zion, you can use private message option since you both have more than 3 posts.
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: DRSM on Monday 10 December 18 13:44 GMT (UK)
Rustypup - just to check, Margaret Robb married the younger brother of her stepfather? IE, the same William James Conway shown on the 1861 census as being 20 years old when Margaret was 17?
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: DRSM on Monday 10 December 18 13:47 GMT (UK)
Thank you, Maiden Stone - Zion and I met today and have exchanged email addresses! 🙂
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: zion on Thursday 21 April 22 16:50 BST (UK)
Hi Rustypup, in a reply a few years ago you said Martha Robb was your gggrandmother and her sister was Margaret Robb who married William James Conway in 1863  they had a daughter Elizabeth Conway but seems some one has wrong info on her middle name  do you know what it was ?   the other site that the info came from must be wrong because they have and Elizabeth Jane Conway born 1865 and an Elizabeth Robb Conway born 1867 with the same parents and same grandparents ????
thanks
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 21 April 22 20:22 BST (UK)
Hi Zion

Elizabeth's birth reg shows her born on 28 Jan 1867 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1867/03502/2287381.pdf  No middle name is included there.

There are entries with the middle name of Jane for Elizabeth though:

Her marriage to Hugh Moore in 1884 includes the middle name of Jane https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1884/10900/5981516.pdf The marriage was on 15 April 1884. She was born on 28 January 1867. Her age at marriage is showing as 18 years old which would be correct for her birth date of early 1867.

Her 1901 census entry with her family shows her a Eliza J. www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Ballycross/Herdstown/1255800/

I can't see reference to any other daughter called Elizabeth for William Conway and Margaret Robb  :-\ Doesn't help that on the 1901 and 1911 censuses Elizabeth shows as born 1865-6 though.

Monica
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 21 April 22 20:34 BST (UK)
There is one entry for an Eliza Conway in 1865...but this birth was illegitimate https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03577/2318632.pdf

Monica
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: Neale1961 on Thursday 21 April 22 21:44 BST (UK)
Similar information provided yesterday on this thread
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=839476.msg7306006#msg7306006
Title: Re: marriage of Margaret Robb and William James Conway in 1863
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 22 April 22 15:49 BST (UK)
Thanks, Neale  :)

Monica