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Hi l am looking for the birth place of a George gunn ,on is marriage cert and death it states he was born 10 th July 1901 ,,his mother was known as Evelyn carne gunn ? But there are some uncertainty a out the mothers name thanks eda
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Births Sep 1901
Gunn George Henry Nottingham 7b 409
Seems this is the one and with that you can purchase the birth cert from the GRO ( which is the cheapest way)
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What is his father's name and occupation. It should be on his marriage cert
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GRO birth registration index has mothers maiden name as Chapman but as advised above if you order the birth you will get full details :)
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Births Sep 1901
Gunn George Henry Nottingham 7b 409
Seems this is the one and with that you can purchase the birth cert from the GRO ( which is the cheapest way)
His parents were George and Jennie as per 1911 census. They were married in 1895.
Debra :)
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George Gunn married Nottingham district Q2 1895, one possible bride is Jennie Chapman.
Are we looking for England / Wales birth?
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Sister Hilda born Sep 1902 Nottingham.
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his mother was known as Evelyn carne gunn ? But there are some uncertainty a out the mothers name
There is also a birth for a George CARNE, probably illegitimate.
CARNE, GEORGE
No mother's maiden surname
GRO Reference: 1901 S Quarter in STEYNING Volume 02B Page 271
Debra :)
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There is a George Carne GUNN on the 1911 census, born London.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7VB-379
Debra :)
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George carne could be him is there a place of birth mentioned ,,,
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If OP checks 1939 register they should be able to find the Nottingham George's dob to see if it matches.
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We seem to be in two different parts of the country - where did your George get married?
Is he likely to be from Nottingham as the other one is sounding plausible at this point.
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his mother was known as Evelyn carne gunn ? But there are some uncertainty a out the mothers name
There is also a birth for a George CARNE, probably illegitimate.
CARNE, GEORGE
No mother's maiden surname
GRO Reference: 1901 S Quarter in STEYNING Volume 02B Page 271
Debra :)
There is a marriage of a George Frederick Gunn in Steyning district in Q3 1902. One possible bride is Ethel Harriett Carne
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What is his father's name and occupation. It should be on his marriage cert
Eda, can you answer this question?
Debra :)
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No father mentioned thankyou for your help
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Sorry if l havnt replied to all your comments lm having a bit of a moment ( memory lapse ) so thankyou all for your comments they are proving very helpful ,, ???
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No father mentioned thankyou for your help
That seems to rule out Nottingham George and make the Steyning one reg'd as Carne the most likely
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Ethel Harriet Carne mmn Anderson birth reg Q4 1882 West Ham Vol 04A Page 101
is possibly the one who married in Steyning district
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Might be Ethel in 1891
Piece: 1332 Folio: 50 Page 30
with parents Francis and Mary Jane and siblings
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Thanks Lizzie
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his mother was known as Evelyn carne gunn ? But there are some uncertainty a out the mothers name
Can you tell us where you have seen this name mentioned?
Who were the witnesses when George and Ellen married?
Debra :)
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Sorry l am researching for a lady l have some no coming through but it's a bit scatty will let you know when I've been in touch there are a few links to the name carne l am working on them at the mo ,will contact you Asap thankyou for your help l am sorry l cannot give you any answers just at the minute eda
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George Frederick Gunn is living with wife Inez in Aldrington, Steyning Sussex on 1901 census. Later in 1901 she files for divorce (full name Inez Marie Larking Gunn - I think maiden name Jenner) on grounds of adultery and cruelty. Would fit with George Frederick fathering George Carne aka Gunn and marrying Ethel the following year when he got the decree absolute on 9 july 1902
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George Frederick Gunn's parents possibly William Gunn and Fanny Highgate
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Hi
I'm working from the other end, and looking at the line back from George Gunn of Brighton and Steyning.
It would appear that before George married Ethel/Evelyn Carne in 1902 (M cert says Steyning District which includes the several Brighton sub-districts such as Hove and Preston) she gave birth to a son George (b1901). I have a copy of his birth cert, but no father is shown.
If this ties in with the line you are tracing, I can put you in touch with a descendant who has a number of family photos.
Roy G
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Hi Roy l am just helping a lady with her search she has found quite a lot of information regarding her grt grt grandmother Ethel..what is your connection with the Gunn family ...it is so interesting .
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Hi Eda
I have no family connection whatsoever, but the lady you are helping also posted on a Brighton website (not really designed for family research) which I still picked up on.
The Fishing family of Gunns and their connection with Brighton goes back at least 400 years, so as a former local historian, I try to document most mentions. George's lot were quite interesting because their branch had made the leap from working hands on at sea, to the middle class where they were dealers.
So far I have traced George's line back to Nathaniel Gunn and Martha. That's not the famous Martha Gunn who was married to Stephen Gunn, for her maiden surname was Killick. It would nevertheless be of interest to find Stephen's connection to Nathaniel.
I surmise from the documents the lady has that as George's marriage to Inez failed to bear fruit, George homed in on Miss Carne, who provided him with the son he needed and then went back to work as a barmaid at the Mid Kent Tavern in Lewisham, (Birth cert says - Hotel, but it wasn't). As you know their marriage legitimised George Junior, but it did not seem to work out.
As the Brighton site owners may soon zap your friend's submissions (for they have objected to its use for family research in the past) I'd like to keep this line of contact open, just in case I find more to add.
Regards Roy G
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Thank you Roy she did message to say she had decided to tell her story on a Brighton web site ..l am now following the carne side of the tree ..but if l do find or hear any connections for the gunns l will get in touch ..george junior didn't seem to have contact with either parents only his mother by letter very sad ..
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I did try looking at the Carnes, but there were so many siblings, with their father a master mariner and born in Serra Leonne, I decided to back off gracefully.
Roy G