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Title: Kelly family from Athlone
Post by: Rose1855 on Sunday 12 August 18 18:03 BST (UK)
Does anyone have a Kelly tree from the Athlone area with a Mary (father Patrick) born 19th March 1874 who has gone missing? She married a British soldier in 1895 and came to England via various army postings. She is by far the shortest branch in my tree and this is my way of researching her!
Title: Re: Kelly family from Athlone
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 12 August 18 18:37 BST (UK)
So not one of these 3... C Reg  Birth results for Mary Kelly from 1874 to 1874
Area - Athlone

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mi4/ 
Title: Re: Kelly family from Athlone
Post by: Rose1855 on Sunday 12 August 18 19:07 BST (UK)
Wow, thanks,

I think it is the 3rd one with mother's name as Costello (as Maria).


Any links??


Rose

Title: Re: Kelly family from Athlone
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 12 August 18 19:13 BST (UK)
Does anyone have a Kelly tree from the Athlone area with a Mary (father Patrick) born 19th March 1874 who has gone missing? She married a British soldier in 1895 and came to England via various army postings. She is by far the shortest branch in my tree and this is my way of researching her!

When and where did she marry?
Title: Re: Kelly family from Athlone
Post by: Rose1855 on Sunday 12 August 18 19:16 BST (UK)
Married at St Peter's Athlone 8th August 1895 to Frederick William Hogben who was in the RFA.
Thanks
Title: Re: Kelly family from Athlone
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 12 August 18 19:24 BST (UK)
Is that all you have to go on at the moment? Mary was a domestic servant living in Athlone at the time of the marriage but that doesn't mean she was born there or her family lived there. There's also no way of telling if her father was alive at the time.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1895/10537/5837910.pdf
Title: Re: Kelly family from Athlone
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 12 August 18 19:25 BST (UK)
So your Mary (father Patrick) born 19th March 1874 is the one born 20th March 1874

Title: Re: Kelly family from Athlone
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 12 August 18 19:28 BST (UK)
The Mary born 1874 has father Patrick as a farmer whereas the 1895 marriage says her father was a labourer  :-\

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1874/03159/2158601.pdf
Title: Re: Kelly family from Athlone
Post by: Rose1855 on Sunday 12 August 18 19:33 BST (UK)
I have her dob from 1939 register and I'm only guessing this is the right birth cert.
Title: Re: Kelly family from Athlone
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 12 August 18 19:35 BST (UK)
There have been cases where the date in the register differs from the actual birth certificate (several reasons for this) but will have a look at another resource to see if there are any other possibilities.
Title: Re: Kelly family from Athlone
Post by: Rose1855 on Sunday 12 August 18 19:40 BST (UK)
Thanks, that's kind of you.

It's all I have for her. The 1911 states she was born in Athlone. It has been my wish to find siblings for many years.


Thanks
Title: Re: Kelly family from Athlone
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 12 August 18 19:41 BST (UK)
Was just going to ask you what 1911 gave as place of birth  ;)
Title: Re: Kelly family from Athlone
Post by: Rose1855 on Sunday 12 August 18 19:52 BST (UK)
 :) thanks
Title: Re: Kelly family from Athlone
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 14 August 18 16:09 BST (UK)
Wonder if this is a possibility?
Mary Frances Kelly
Born 19 Mar 1874 Ireland
Father- Patrick Kelly
Mother- Frances Jessie Nolan
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRW4-34W

However, this record shows district as Castleblayney-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5VX-T1S

Birth record says father is a constable  :-\
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1874/03164/2160861.pdf
Title: Re: Kelly family from Athlone
Post by: Rose1855 on Wednesday 15 August 18 08:38 BST (UK)
Good morning

Thanks for that, Castleblayney does seem to be a rather a long way from Athlone, and the police constable bit would surely be carried on through to the marriage certificate, I'm not too sure. The difference in date of birth could quite easily be a mistake by the person registering the birth I guess.

Thanks again,

Rose
Title: Re: Kelly family from Athlone
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 15 August 18 08:42 BST (UK)
It's possible the date in 1939 register is incorrect- either because she didn't know the exact date of her birth (my father-in-law born before WWI could never remember his birthdate) or had shaved a few years off her birth year at some point.
Title: Re: Kelly family from Athlone
Post by: Rose1855 on Wednesday 15 August 18 09:24 BST (UK)
Sure, she added 2 years to her birth on the 1901 and took two years off on the 1911, so I see your point. Her MI says 1874. She did the same almost for her eldest son, I don't think her maths was too good or she was playing around with the years due to her son being conceived before marriage and she got in a muddle.