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Title: Help Please William Taylor
Post by: Taylor111 on Monday 13 August 18 18:03 BST (UK)
So I thought I would try the Gloucestershire forum first.

So to give you a bit more info, my 3rd great grandfather was
William Taylor
1825–1908
Birth 06/11/1825 • St James Westminster, London, England
Death 12/06/1908 • Lambeth, Surrey, England
I have the details of his wife and their mountain of children too, but won't fill this post with all of that.

His parents I believe were
John Taylor
1791–1869
Birth 1791 • Kingsland, Herefordshire, England
Death 23 MAY 1869 • Leominster, Herefordshire, England
And 
Martha Taylor
1798–1834
Birth 1798
Death 1834 • Herefordshire, England (no further info on her it's a bit messed up as he married twice and still all a bit confusing) Anyway moving on...........

It is Johns parents I am trying to confirm and any other possible siblings he may of had.. this is what I have but not 100%

William Taylor
1748–1829
Birth 1748 England (THIS IS JUST A GUESS YEAR)
Death 4 MAR 1829  Kingsland, Herefordshire, England
Married I believe a Mary Lawrence 10 May 1771 • Kingsland,Hereford,England

I believe her dates are 1751–1828
Birth 1751 • Randwick Gloucestershire, England
Death 18 NOVEMBER 1828 • Kingsland Herefordshire, England

So it is Johns parents I am looking for if anyone can help? Thanks so much guys



Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: carol8353 on Monday 13 August 18 19:00 BST (UK)
To avoid duplication of effort note that  this has also been posted on

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=798516.msg6557565#msg6557565
Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: Pheno on Monday 13 August 18 19:47 BST (UK)
Hi, no answers but are you sure that William Taylor's parents were both born and died in Herefordshire - her only 9 years after his birth, and yet you state that he was born St. James, Westminster.

Do you have any evidence of their being in London at the time of his birth - or at least them not being in Herefordshire where they appear to have been all their lives?

Pheno
Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: Capetown on Monday 13 August 18 20:09 BST (UK)


As there appears to be Public Members Tree on Ancestry which states

William TAYLOR married Louisa Victoria Nightingale - 21 August 1862 at St Anne's Limehouse, Middlesex - assume the marriage certificate gave the name of his father etc.

Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: mazi on Monday 13 August 18 20:17 BST (UK)
There is a submitted entry on IGI giving this marriage, and the birth place of st James, but the William Taylor born 1825 was baptised in st Anne’s soho.

Maybe this entry is questionable.                                                                                             
o


As there appears to be Public Members Tree on Ancestry which states

William TAYLOR married Louisa Victoria Nightingale - 21 August 1862 at St Anne's Limehouse, Middlesex - assume the marriage certificate gave the name of his father etc.


Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: Capetown on Monday 13 August 18 20:19 BST (UK)


The Marriage Certificate is on Ancestry and William TAYLOR, a Provision Dealer, father: John TAYLOR, Farmer
Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: mazi on Monday 13 August 18 20:28 BST (UK)
There is a William Taylor christened in St James Westminster, but in 1826, I am wondering which one is the right birth.

Hi, no answers but are you sure that William Taylor's parents were both born and died in Herefordshire - her only 9 years after his birth, and yet you state that he was born St. James, Westminster.

Do you have any evidence of their being in London at the time of his birth - or at least them not being in Herefordshire where they appear to have been all their lives?

Pheno

Im puzzled by this also

Mike
Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: Capetown on Monday 13 August 18 20:36 BST (UK)
The 1871 census for William TAYLOR has a nephew as an Assistant, John W GUYER aged 22 born Paddington and according to the 'Tree' on Ancestry - his parents were: George GUYER and Louisa TAYLOR - and this marriage is on Ancestry 1848 at Parish Church, Plumstead - and Louisa, says her father: John TAYLOR was a Cheese Manager.


1861 Census, St Luke Middlesex

William TAYLOR - 35 - unmarried, Cheesemonger - born Westminster St James
John E TAYLOR - 32 -  married - Cheesemonger - born Hereford
Elizabeth A TAYLOR (sister-in-law) - 36
George GUYER - 9  - nephew
Frederick GUYER -17 - nephew

etc etc


Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: Taylor111 on Monday 13 August 18 20:54 BST (UK)
Hello yes I know all about William and Louisa, and also William's sister Louisa who married guyer. I pretty know everything about William and have all the records. It is his fathers parents and siblings I am trying to track, thanks for all looking  :)
Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: Taylor111 on Monday 13 August 18 20:56 BST (UK)
John E is John Edward Williams brother, one of 9 siblings between two women with the man I am trying to get past which is John Taylor.
Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: Taylor111 on Monday 13 August 18 20:58 BST (UK)
It is Johns parents I am trying to confirm please and any other possible siblings he may of had.. this is what I have but not 100%

William Taylor (Johns Father)
1748–1829
Birth 1748 England (THIS IS JUST A GUESS YEAR)
Death 4 MAR 1829  Kingsland, Herefordshire, England
Married I believe a Mary Lawrence 10 May 1771 • Kingsland,Hereford,England

I believe her dates are 1751–1828
Birth 1751 • Randwick Gloucestershire, England
Death 18 NOVEMBER 1828 • Kingsland Herefordshire, England

So it is Johns parents I am looking for if anyone can help?
Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: Capetown on Monday 13 August 18 21:08 BST (UK)
If you google

Herefordshire Record Office Wills - there is a searchable database which includes



16 November 1745, William TAYLOR, Kingsland, Execu: Ann TAYLOR

19 May 1760, Thomas TAYLOR, Kingsland, Execu: Thomas TAYLOR

29 August 1768, James TAYLOR, Kingsland etc etc

25 March 1774 John TAYLOR, Kingsland

14 September 1776, Mary TAYLOR, Kingsland

8 July 1808, Thomas TAYLOR, Kingsland etc etc

20 November 1834, Francis TAYLOR, Kingsland

15 March 1851, Francis TAYLOR, Kingsland (Will on Ancestry, Canterbury Wills - talks about his brother William)
Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: Capetown on Monday 13 August 18 21:49 BST (UK)
Just Googled :  William TAYLOR 1745, Kingsland, Herefordshire

and Under the Heading:

Herefordshire 101-200

At some point this must have been on sale in eBay

Date: 1762

1762 VELLUM DEED SELLING FREEHOLD IN HEREFORD NO RESERVE.

This ia an entirely handwritten vellum indenture dated 4 March 1762 in the reign of King George III and is between Ann PURSHULL of the City of Worcester on the first part; John TAYLOR of Kingsland in Hereford of the second part and John GETTING of Kingsland, a stone cutter, of the third part, interestlingly, the document mentions that TAYLOR proposes to sell to GETTING "the freehold and inheritance" of the land concerned which is in Kingsland.

There is one excellent blue revenue stamp for two shillings and sixpence and two red wax seals by the signatures.

There are also witnesses' signatures and a receipt on the verso.

Size.  The document is approx. 30" wide x 23" high.
Condition;  Dustmarking on the small outer portion of the verso but otherwise in excellent condition with the usual folding creases.
Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: Taylor111 on Tuesday 14 August 18 08:49 BST (UK)
Hi Capetown thanks for that, I can't read that at all  ;D
It was such a small place, and yet it is so hard this one finding 100% who John Taylor born 1791 parents were. Feeling deflated today.... :-\
Title: Re: Help Please William Taylor
Post by: tillyc on Wednesday 22 August 18 13:24 BST (UK)
I've found a baptism for a Mary Lawrence in the Randwick parish records. 

Details as follows: 
      Mary the daughter of George Lawrence of the parish of Stroud baptised 8th March 1751.

Tilly