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Can anyone help please. If someone dies in a care home ( 2004 ) who registers death ? Relative ? or person in charge of nursing home.
Victoria
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Could be anyone. If there was a relative ( or friend, or neighbour) on hand then maybe them. Failing that maybe an official of the Care Home.
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The following people can register a death:
a relative
someone who was with the person when they died
someone who lives at the address where the person died
someone who is arranging the funeral (but not the undertaker)
Stan
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Thank You. much obliged.
Victoria
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Whoever is registering the death needs a document from the deceased's doctor, this can be issued within a day or so if a coroner is not going to be involved.
More info here https://www.gov.uk/after-a-death
rgds
Edward
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Whoever is registering the death needs a document from the deceased's doctor, this can be issued within a day or so if a coroner is not going to be involved.
More info here https://www.gov.uk/after-a-death
rgds
Edward
I was with my mother when she died in a care home during the night. Her GP, who came the following morning, handed me the medical death certificate, naming me and the care worker who was with me as witnesses, and I registered her death and am named on the official death certificate as the informant.
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I used to work in a care home. Those with families it was their family who registered the death. Some of those without family would have a solicitor appointed as their power of attorney and the solicitor would register the death. In the absence of anyone else the care home manager often registered the death
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I realise you are talking about a U.K death but in other countries the practicals can be different.
For example in Nw South Wales, Australia, it is the responsibilty of the funeral director, and from a family history perspective this is good as you get the equivalent of the English death registration and the 'burial' order AND the details of the deceased's parents, marriage/s and offspring ...
Victoria, Australia certificates are even more detailed, Queensland and Western Australia similar to NSW.
New Zealand BDM are very detailed too
JM
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For a list of people qualified to give information concerning the death, see the Births and Deaths Registration Act 1953
Information concerning death in a house. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Eliz2/1-2/20/section/16
Information concerning other deaths. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Eliz2/1-2/20/section/17
Stan
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Thank You. Much obliged.
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This is not relevant to the 'who' but a landmark moment for me.
When my much loved Dad died late last Autumn I went with Mum to register his death.
I asked her that unless she had any strong feelings about it, me being the one who has done all the family research please could I sign the form.
It was a sad and poignant moment but even more so genealogically when 2018 rolled around and he appeared in abbreviated form on Scotlands People.
Yes I was there when he died, helped to plan and took part in the funeral and missed his presence greatly but when I saw it on my computer in the room where I do my family research it was like a thump in the heart.
How silly really :-\ :'(
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This is not relevant to the 'who' but a landmark moment for me.
When my much loved Dad died late last Autumn I went with Mum to register his death.
I asked her that unless she had any strong feelings about it, me being the one who has done all the family research please could I sign the form.
It was a sad and poignant moment but even more so genealogically when 2018 rolled around and he appeared in abbreviated form on Scotlands People.
Yes I was there when he died, helped to plan and took part in the funeral and missed his presence greatly but when I saw it on my computer in the room where I do my family research it was like a thump in the heart.
How silly really :-\ :'(
Not silly to me. I nearly started crying when I saw my Dad's signature on my birth certificate. I was sitting in the Mitchell SP room, so in public.
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This is not relevant to the 'who' but a landmark moment for me.
When my much loved Dad died late last Autumn I went with Mum to register his death.
I asked her that unless she had any strong feelings about it, me being the one who has done all the family research please could I sign the form.
It was a sad and poignant moment but even more so genealogically when 2018 rolled around and he appeared in abbreviated form on Scotlands People.
Yes I was there when he died, helped to plan and took part in the funeral and missed his presence greatly but when I saw it on my computer in the room where I do my family research it was like a thump in the heart.
How silly really :-\ :'(
Like you my Dad recently passed away - and I had much the same feelings. For me the lump in my throat came when I was doing something on my family tree and I suddenly realised I had dates and other information to fill in about my Dad. It was very sad.
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So sad can understand feelings. I wanted to know who registers death so I could get death certificate to see names of informants ( part of family history )
Victoria
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Hi Victoria
Just to add - even if the informants were not family members it may also be useful to your research in order for you to get an idea of their life before they passed away. For example, you can see where they died and who was in attendance or registered the death. This is why ages are sometimes out on the d/c's the information is only as good as the person giving it! Which may be someone who does not know the deceased very well. I always find the address the person died is especially helpful, particularly if you are wanting to know where they are buried.
Kind regards
CD
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Thank you. The place where she died is a care home. This is why we asked who registers death. If it is care home they can not give us any information about deceased ( confidentiality ) if it was relative we may find members of her family who are related.
Victoria
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Yes, the problem is you'll not know who registered the death unless you buy the cert. It's rather a catch 22. :-\
Sadly, a good friend of mine, her father died within days of my Dad. He died in a care home and she was not present. But, she was the one who registered the death. Given the year (2004) I would suggest unless there really were no known relatives (or even a close friend or neighbour) the care home staff would be the last people to register the death.
If I were you I'd start checking the local newspapers for any obit and also look for burial information. If I were feeling a bit flush I would go for it and buy the cert. Like I say I find all the other information just as useful in order to track back to relatives.
CD
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In 1851 an ancestor of mine died in the workhouse and a fellow inmate registered the death.
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Thank You, will give it some thought.
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When my mother in law died in 1970 she was in a long term hospital. My husband was estranged from his mother for reasons I will not go into here. Her death was registered by the Matron. Some months later the hospital traced my husband and we obtained a copy of her death certificate. Most of the information including her parents and husband were missing. At that point we had no idea of her parents details and her husband had died in the 1920's (not my husband's father)
A couple of years ago I came accross the certificate and now knew all the missing information through doing my research into his family. I contacted the Registrar's Office in Edinburgh and was asked to supply copies of the relevant Birth/Marriage certificates along with a small fee and they sent me a new death certificate with all the missing information on it.
My children who never knew their grandmother were really pleased.
Dorrie