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Title: Cyril William Henry Marks born Aberavon 22 Sept 1903 Died Essex 1973 I think
Post by: mlrsuperstar on Wednesday 15 August 18 20:43 BST (UK)
The Invisible man ? I have the birth Aberavon 1903 died Rochford Essex 1973 Mar qtr (I think )

OK I have his birth his death and the 1911 census. He and siblings are on a couple of Anc trees.....mine Inc

But that is it  Find him my chatters ?? Find him ??
Even his great niece did not know of his existence until yesterday !!!
Can't find him on the 39 , cant find probate ,cant find marriage....But I bet you can

Don't let me down...……. you haven't so far
Title: Re: Cyril William Henry Marks born Aberavon 22 Sept 1903 Died Essex 1973 I think
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 15 August 18 21:17 BST (UK)
What was his occupation on his death cert?  He may have been a mariner.  Have you checked passenger records in case he lived abroad for a time? Is his marital status shown?
Title: Re: Cyril William Henry Marks born Aberavon 22 Sept 1903 Died Essex 1973 I think
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 15 August 18 21:20 BST (UK)
Who reported his death?
Title: Re: Cyril William Henry Marks born Aberavon 22 Sept 1903 Died Essex 1973 I think
Post by: mlrsuperstar on Wednesday 15 August 18 21:24 BST (UK)
Sorry Carole all I have is the gro index.
His family know nothing of him . By family  I mean two generations on .
That is why the monica the Invisible man.
Title: Re: Cyril William Henry Marks born Aberavon 22 Sept 1903 Died Essex 1973 I think
Post by: Richview on Friday 17 August 18 12:21 BST (UK)
I think Cyril married

Winifred May Cowley age 19 on 1st August 1927 at Dinnington Yorkshire

His father was a miner named Harry William Marks???

R


Title: Re: Cyril William Henry Marks born Aberavon 22 Sept 1903 Died Essex 1973 I think
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 17 August 18 12:49 BST (UK)
Just listing more detail on the facts stated

Birth
MARKS, CYRIL  WILLIAM HENRY    mmn SMITH 
GRO Reference: 1903  December Quarter in NEATH  Volume 11A  Page 886

Is this him with father William in 1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWXZ-V7V

Possible death though last initial is wrong
Deaths Mar qtr 1973   
CYRIL WILLIAM N MARKS   
Birth 22 SEP 1903   
ROCHFORD    4A   2706
There is no probate in 1973 or 1974 on the index for this death
 
Title: Re: Cyril William Henry Marks born Aberavon 22 Sept 1903 Died Essex 1973 I think
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 17 August 18 13:12 BST (UK)
Quote from: Richview on Friday 17 August 18 12:21 BST (UK)
I think Cyril married

Winifred May Cowley age 19 on 1st August 1927 at Dinnington Yorkshire

His father was a miner named Harry William Marks???

R

I think that marriage is possible too.  Especially going by the unusual name of the first child who could be named after Cyrils mother
Title: Re: Cyril William Henry Marks born Aberavon 22 Sept 1903 Died Essex 1973 I think
Post by: Richview on Friday 17 August 18 13:15 BST (UK)
His DOB is 22 Sept 1904 - I think that's the man.

R
Title: Re: Cyril William Henry Marks born Aberavon 22 Sept 1903 Died Essex 1973 I think
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 17 August 18 13:18 BST (UK)
His death is also in the same county as first child married. 

Well done Richview  ;D
Title: Re: Cyril William Henry Marks born Aberavon 22 Sept 1903 Died Essex 1973 I think
Post by: Richview on Friday 17 August 18 13:21 BST (UK)
Thank you!

R
Title: Re: Cyril William Henry Marks born Aberavon 22 Sept 1903 Died Essex 1973 I think
Post by: mlrsuperstar on Friday 17 August 18 14:45 BST (UK)
Hi Richview,

Can I ask how you arrive at the correct father (Harry William Marks ) from the marriage ?
have you a copy of the marriage cert or is it on FindMyPast ??
If you can confirm how it would be great and I will be very grateful


Regards
mlr
Title: Re: Cyril William Henry Marks born Aberavon 22 Sept 1903 Died Essex 1973 I think
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 17 August 18 14:50 BST (UK)
Marriage in Dinnington names that Cyrils father as Harry William Marks occupation Grocer (F M P)
Title: Re: Cyril William Henry Marks born Aberavon 22 Sept 1903 Died Essex 1973 I think
Post by: Richview on Friday 17 August 18 14:52 BST (UK)
Well done Rosie I had the fathers occupations reversed.LOL
Title: Re: Cyril William Henry Marks born Aberavon 22 Sept 1903 Died Essex 1973 I think
Post by: mlrsuperstar on Friday 17 August 18 14:54 BST (UK)
yes Loveday M Marks Jun 1929  too much of a coincidence thank you Richview
Title: Re: Cyril William Henry Marks born Aberavon 22 Sept 1903 Died Essex 1973 I think
Post by: Richview on Friday 17 August 18 14:56 BST (UK)
Your welcome

R
Title: Re: Cyril William Henry Marks born Aberavon 22 Sept 1903 Died Essex 1973 I think
Post by: mlrsuperstar on Sunday 19 August 18 19:32 BST (UK)
Yes I believe as per what you thought was an error was originally an error by the curate or vicar and grocer and miner s/b reversed....not the first or last time I expect to see this. One other occasion in a branch of the family close to this one.

Anyhow thanks to Richview,Rosie and CaroleW. This one is solved and thanks also to Richview a stem to New Zealand of the same family , many many thanks all.

I told Cyril's  great niece of his existance last week. She knew of all her other great Aunts and Uncles but did not know of Cyril whatsoever. I will ask here to add a post here in thanks to you all for your kind assistance.
Title: Re: Cyril William Henry Marks born Aberavon 22 Sept 1903 Died Essex 1973 I think
Post by: mlrsuperstar on Thursday 23 August 18 07:19 BST (UK)
A postscript to my original query...…

I am now trying to track Cyril's burial or cremation and also his wife's Winifred May Marks' burial or cremation ….I am assuming (brave words)...that he was  buried in Essex  . ????

 Can Anyone help ?
Title: Re: Cyril William Henry Marks born Aberavon 22 Sept 1903 Died Essex 1973 I think
Post by: mlrsuperstar on Saturday 01 September 18 19:36 BST (UK)
Found in New Zealand.

Thank you all.