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Title: The Pinnocks of Hannington
Post by: toby webb on Sunday 19 August 18 12:01 BST (UK)
I would welcome opinions as to ages of the 2 last entries (ages always seem to be suspect in 1841) and the name of the last. I suspect that the last is also not a Pinnock but maybe that is wishful thinking.
Title: Re: The Pinnocks of Hannington
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 19 August 18 12:27 BST (UK)
Looks like Jemima and as not dittoed possibly not a Pinnock.

Are you descended from Jemima? When/where/who did she marry?

Family in 1851;
Walter Pinnock   Head   M   59   Hannington, Wiltshire
Hannah Pinnock   Wife   F   66   Gusey,
Eliza Sims   Daughter   F   27   Hannington, Wiltshire
Rose Ann Sims   Daughter   F   25   Hannington, Wiltshire
Elizabeth Sims   Daughter   F   7   Hannington, Wiltshire
Susannah Sims   Daughter   F   2   Stratton, Wiltshire
James Sims   Son   M   6   Hannington

Trish :)

Title: Re: The Pinnocks of Hannington
Post by: jennifer c on Sunday 19 August 18 12:49 BST (UK)
1861 census Brewery Street Highworth Cricklade

Hannah Pinnock mar 75 Ag lab born Goosey Berkshire
Elizabeth Sims dau 17 Hannington Wilts

Hannah died 1867 aged 82 Highworth

Jennifer
Title: Re: The Pinnocks of Hannington
Post by: toby webb on Sunday 19 August 18 12:51 BST (UK)
Hannah aka Susanna is my forebear. Walter Pinnock was her second husband.

Jemima Sims, victim of the times had a son before marrying Henry embling in 1849. T
Title: Re: The Pinnocks of Hannington
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 19 August 18 12:52 BST (UK)
Very confusing Family;
Name:   Walter Pinnock
Marriage Date:   9 Feb 1835
Parish:   Hannington
Marital Status:   Widower
Residence:   Hannington
Spouse:   Susanna Simms
Spouse Marital Status: Widow***
Spouse Residence:   of This Parish

JAMIMIA Sims christened April 1825 Hannington to THOMAS/HANNAH
Title: Re: The Pinnocks of Hannington
Post by: toby webb on Sunday 19 August 18 12:53 BST (UK)
Thanks for all the help. Hannah is one of many brick walls. Goosey has not yielded up its secret. T
Title: Re: The Pinnocks of Hannington
Post by: jennifer c on Sunday 19 August 18 12:57 BST (UK)
Walter went to trial in Wiltshire 3/7/1838 and was imprisoned.

He died in Highworth 1864.

Jennifer
Title: Re: The Pinnocks of Hannington
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 19 August 18 13:02 BST (UK)
Possible Marriage?;
19 August 1811 Shrivenham, Berkshire
Thomas SIMMS to Susanna GILES
Title: Re: The Pinnocks of Hannington
Post by: jennifer c on Sunday 19 August 18 13:07 BST (UK)
Hannah/Susannah was born c.1785 so could even have been a widow in 1811 ??

Jennifer
Title: Re: The Pinnocks of Hannington
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 19 August 18 13:11 BST (UK)
Record I posted has her as a Widow :)
Title: Re: The Pinnocks of Hannington
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 19 August 18 13:13 BST (UK)
Sorry misunderstood you yes she may have been widowed at 1811 Marriage also.
Title: Re: The Pinnocks of Hannington
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 19 August 18 13:23 BST (UK)
Christenings Hannington or Highworth to THOMAS/HANNAH Sim(m)s
JOHN 11 Oct 1812
JANE 11 July 1819
ELIZA 8 July 1821
JAMIMIA 1825
HARRIET 2 Dec 1827
Cant find anything for Rosa Anna
Title: Re: The Pinnocks of Hannington
Post by: toby webb on Sunday 19 August 18 13:47 BST (UK)
Rose Ann Sims d/o Thomas & Ann baptised Hannington 13 July 1823 T
Title: Re: The Pinnocks of Hannington
Post by: toby webb on Sunday 19 August 18 13:52 BST (UK)
Replies coming in so rapidly that I missed your comment jennifer c about Walter on trial. Not aware of this so a lead would be welcome. T
Title: Re: The Pinnocks of Hannington
Post by: toby webb on Sunday 19 August 18 14:20 BST (UK)
     trish1120. I think you have brought me back on track.
     I had always been looking for  a Hannah who married  a Thomas Sims a little time before their first born John was baptised on 11 Oct. 1812. I had found that marriage in Shrivenham, more or less rejected it as not being Hannah, and had pencilled it into the relevant record book but had not used ink. I then forgot about it . When I found the marriage to Walter in 1834 , I realised that Susanna appeared to be her real name and added it to the records but had forgotten about Shrivenham.
      Shrivenham to Goosey is about 10 miles so I really think you have cracked it. Many, many thanks. T
Title: Re: The Pinnocks of Hannington
Post by: jennifer c on Sunday 19 August 18 14:44 BST (UK)
Perhaps someone can give you details of Walter Pinnock trial in Wiltshire 1838, that's all I can access.

Jennifer
Title: Re: The Pinnocks of Hannington
Post by: toby webb on Sunday 19 August 18 15:10 BST (UK)
Thanks jennifer c.
Anyone with a String or reference or some sort of lead. Anything will help. T.
Title: Re: The Pinnocks of Hannington
Post by: toby webb on Wednesday 22 August 18 12:09 BST (UK)
I have now seen the 1838 book which shows that a Walter Pinnock aged 46 was 'shut up' for 3 months. Seems pretty certain this is the WP of interest but no other information, apart from that the trial was on 3 July 1838. Where was the trial held and are details of the larceny to be found? I would be pleased to know. T
Title: Re: The Pinnocks of Hannington
Post by: toby webb on Saturday 20 April 19 17:23 BST (UK)
Following a trip to the Wiltshire Rcord office in Chippenham, I can add a little more.
W.R.O. Ref; A1-125-60, 64
Walter Pinnock was held in Devizes New Prison pending trial on 8 April 1834 at Salisbury Sessions. He was convicted of the crime of 'Leaving his Family' and sentenced to 3 months.

On 3 July 1838 at the Warminster Sessions he was convicted, aged 46,  of the Felony of stealing a hat and was sentenced to 3 calendar months hard labour at the Devizes House of Correction.

Seems to be a sufficiently unusual name to probably be the Walter we are intersted in.

Hope this helps. T