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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: Pheno on Sunday 19 August 18 15:10 BST (UK)
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The Ancestry London collection has a record of the marriage of
Elizabeth Martha Williams - father John Terrey to William George Bond on 8 July 1866 at St. Mary, Lambeth.
The banns for this marriage published 1/8/15 April 1866 show her originally recorded as Lizzy Martha Williams widow but Lizzy has been crossed through and changed to Eliz.
The marriage witnesses are JE Gawler? and Edw Powell and the record states that John, her carpenter father is deceased.
She and William Bond do not appear to have any children.
Although I have searched and have found her in the 1871/81/91 censuses with William George Bond I cannot find her prior to her second marriage in 1866 or her birth. Census info suggests birth around 1843 and consistently states Westminster as place.
She dies Jun 1891.
Can anybody please find this elusive lady and/or her family prior to 1861 please.
I do not need any info on William George Bond thanks.
Thanks, Pheno
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Possible?
John H Terry Head Male 45 Jouneyman Carpenter*** born Greenwich, Kent
Phoebe Terry Wife Female 44 Bath,
John H D Terry Son Male 15 Greenwich, Kent
George Terry Son Male 11 Greenwich, Kent
Ann H Terry Daughter Female 13 Greenwich, Kent
Emma Terry Daughter Female 9 Greenwich, Kent
Elizabeth Terry Daughter Female 7 Greenwich, Kent********
Mary Ann Terry Daughter Female 4 Greenwich, Kent
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Sorry not her the one above was Elizabeth Phoebe Terry ::)
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Thanks Trish - presumably this is the 1851 and details do seem correct - don't know why I hadn't spotted it myself, except I think I was focussed on a Westminster birth as that is what was on the only 3 censuses I had to date.
Will follow through. Pheno
ADDED:No I won't now that you have posted again.
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Both witnesses appear on several other marriages in that register ;)
Marriages Sep qtr 1858 :-\
Keigan Eliza
Terry Eliza
Thorogood William
Williams George James
Kensington 1a 165
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Both witnesses appear on several other marriages in that register ;)
Marriages Sep qtr 1858 :-\
Keigan Eliza
Terry Eliza
Thorogood William
Williams George James
Kensington 1a 165
That marriage names her father as Charles Terry occ Carpenter
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Both witnesses appear on several other marriages in that register ;)
Marriages Sep qtr 1858 :-\
Keigan Eliza
Terry Eliza
Thorogood William
Williams George James
Kensington 1a 165
That marriage names her father as Charles Terry occ Carpenter
Yes, and this couple are still together in 1871: RG10/182/13/18.
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Hi all, I am really sorry and truly thought this was my first post on the subject but as you can see from the links below it is not!
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=679489.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=740407.0
I checked everything else I could before posting but overlooked this.
Many apologies as I do know better.
Thanks for looking.
Pheno
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It was a busy day at St Mary, Lambeth on 8 July 1866. Elizabeth Martha Williams’ and William Bond’s marriage was the 10th one of the day (out of 16, all witnessed by the same two people).
Also on the agenda that day were several banns including those for an Elizabeth Terrey and William Gofton Seller.
I wonder whether there is a possibility that the vicar got some notes muddled up, and “John Terrey” was not the correct name for Elizabeth Martha Williams’ father. Elizabeth made her mark on the marriage register, and the witnesses appear to be unrelated, so an error might have gone unnoticed.
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Oh there's a thought avm. I guess he could also have been mistaken about her marital status too and she might not have been a widow.
Actually the banns page record for the Lizzy/Eliz Williams has been completely crossed through so maybe I should go back to that book and check to see if there is any other detail recorded anywhere.
I might follow that route and see where it takes me.
Thanks, Pheno
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She’s a widow on the banns.
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Yes and I see that every page of that banns book is crossed through so no joy there.
Pheno
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Elizabeth Terrey that married William G Seller has father named as Thomas Terrey a Labourer
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Elizabeth Terrey that married William G Seller has father named as Thomas Terrey a Labourer
Yes I see that they married on 2 October 1866. I just wonder whether Elizabeth Martha Williams’ father might have been John something else, and the Terrey name might have crept into the record erroneously on 8 July 1866. It’s a bit out there as a suggestion, granted :)