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Title: Co. Tyrone LOOK UP REQUEST- Maj.Gen. William McCulloch and Frederick McCulloch
Post by: nigelspicer on Tuesday 21 August 18 16:49 BST (UK)
The above 2 gentlemen spent most of their lives with the HEIC. They were both with the Bengal Army. The former died in London abt 1817 and the latter (who was an assistant surgeon) died in India abt 1796. I'm pretty sure they were brothers. According to Hodson, William was born in about 1753/4 in Co. Tyrone (probably either Strabane or Omagh) and if they were brothers, then I assume Frederick was also born about this time in the same place.

Could some kind soul with access to the parish records have a look for me and see if they can spot the two baptism records. Most grateful!
Title: Re: Co. Tyrone LOOK UP REQUEST- Maj.Gen. William McCulloch and Frederick McCulloch
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 21 August 18 18:28 BST (UK)
Same one?

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D224182
Title: Re: Co. Tyrone LOOK UP REQUEST- Maj.Gen. William McCulloch and Frederick McCulloch
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 21 August 18 18:54 BST (UK)
I know...not what you asked about!

STRABANE MORNING POST   September 9 1834
   

Married the 2nd inst. by the Rev. W. G. Stack, WILLIAM FREDERICK McCULLOCH, ESQ., grandson of the late GENERAL McCULLOCH, of the Hon East India Company’s Service, to ELIZABETH, eldest daughter of SURGEON HAMILTON, of Omagh
Title: Re: Co. Tyrone LOOK UP REQUEST- Maj.Gen. William McCulloch and Frederick McCulloch
Post by: nigelspicer on Tuesday 21 August 18 21:28 BST (UK)
hallmark

Thank you for your replies. Yes I have seen these. It is the same person. I've read William's will and he doesn't specifically refer to a brother called Frederick , but then if he died some 20 years before....
Title: Re: Co. Tyrone LOOK UP REQUEST- Maj.Gen. William McCulloch and Frederick McCulloch
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 21 August 18 21:48 BST (UK)
hallmark

Thank you for your replies. Yes I have seen these. It is the same person. I've read William's will and he doesn't specifically refer to a brother called Frederick , but then if he died some 20 years before....


That is no problem!

Is there any location mentioned for anyone in Ireland in the Will?
Title: Re: Co. Tyrone LOOK UP REQUEST- Maj.Gen. William McCulloch and Frederick McCulloch
Post by: nigelspicer on Wednesday 22 August 18 09:46 BST (UK)
Hello hallmark

The will only mentions a place name when he refers to his brother in law John Orr of Strabane, but as I said above, Hodson seems to think William also came from Strabane.

I wonder how one finds out if the parish registers for this period even exist in either Strabane or Omagh (Catholic or Protestant etc.). Do you know?

Many thanks.
Title: Re: Co. Tyrone LOOK UP REQUEST- Maj.Gen. William McCulloch and Frederick McCulloch
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 22 August 18 10:12 BST (UK)
Omagh RC  https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0365  start to late!
Title: Re: Co. Tyrone LOOK UP REQUEST- Maj.Gen. William McCulloch and Frederick McCulloch
Post by: nigelspicer on Wednesday 22 August 18 10:36 BST (UK)
hallmark

Thanks for that link- but as you say unfortunately they start too late. Can I take it that any ideas I had about exploring parish registers of this period in these places is well and truly kicked into touch ie they simply do not exist?

Back to the drawing board methinks!

Thank you
Title: Re: Co. Tyrone LOOK UP REQUEST- Maj.Gen. William McCulloch and Frederick McCulloch
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 22 August 18 10:37 BST (UK)
I'd be more inclined to look on FamilySearch for Wills/Deeds/Marriage Agreements


Grantor index M 1730-1768 for example (see photo)  and then later ones!! 

Especially McCullogh to McCullogh  and McCullogh to Orr and Hamilton.
Title: Re: Co. Tyrone LOOK UP REQUEST- Maj.Gen. William McCulloch and Frederick McCulloch
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 22 August 18 10:41 BST (UK)
It doesn't say what each are...but one is a Will

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Title: Re: Co. Tyrone LOOK UP REQUEST- Maj.Gen. William McCulloch and Frederick McCulloch
Post by: nigelspicer on Wednesday 22 August 18 10:49 BST (UK)
Hmmm! That was a couple of very interesting records you just posted. Forgive my ignorance but could  you give me some links. I'd love to start digging in that area!
Title: Re: Co. Tyrone LOOK UP REQUEST- Maj.Gen. William McCulloch and Frederick McCulloch
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 22 August 18 10:49 BST (UK)
Grantor index M 1767-1785


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Title: Re: Co. Tyrone LOOK UP REQUEST- Maj.Gen. William McCulloch and Frederick McCulloch
Post by: nigelspicer on Wednesday 22 August 18 10:57 BST (UK)
Have now found the index!
Title: Re: Co. Tyrone LOOK UP REQUEST- Maj.Gen. William McCulloch and Frederick McCulloch
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 22 August 18 10:58 BST (UK)
The Will...  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSH3-M9S1-T?i=197&cat=185720
Title: Re: Co. Tyrone LOOK UP REQUEST- Maj.Gen. William McCulloch and Frederick McCulloch
Post by: nigelspicer on Wednesday 22 August 18 11:09 BST (UK)
hallmark

You work fast. I didn't even know this sort of record was available on FS. All very very interesting. I wonder if the Wm. McCulloch referred to in this will could be the Maj. Gen.----Hodson could have been wrong about his birth date of 1753/4.

Greatly appreciate the help- thank you.
Title: Re: Co. Tyrone LOOK UP REQUEST- Maj.Gen. William McCulloch and Frederick McCulloch
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 22 August 18 11:12 BST (UK)
Am used to just doodling there!   ;D
Title: Re: Co. Tyrone LOOK UP REQUEST- Maj.Gen. William McCulloch and Frederick McCulloch
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 22 August 18 11:19 BST (UK)
hallmark

You work fast. I didn't even know this sort of record was available on FS. All very very interesting. I wonder if the Wm. McCulloch referred to in this will could be the Maj. Gen.----Hodson could have been wrong about his birth date of 1753/4.

Greatly appreciate the help- thank you.


That Will is Antrim!!
Title: Re: Co. Tyrone LOOK UP REQUEST- Maj.Gen. William McCulloch and Frederick McCulloch
Post by: nigelspicer on Wednesday 22 August 18 11:24 BST (UK)
Good point- mustn't get ahead of myself!
Title: Re: Co. Tyrone LOOK UP REQUEST- Maj.Gen. William McCulloch and Frederick McCulloch
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 22 August 18 11:27 BST (UK)
Maybe investigate

STRABANE MORNING POST   September 9 1834
   

Married the 2nd inst. by the Rev. W. G. Stack, WILLIAM FREDERICK McCULLOCH, ESQ., grandson of the late GENERAL McCULLOCH, of the Hon East India Company’s Service, to ELIZABETH, eldest daughter of SURGEON HAMILTON, of Omagh


Was there a Marriage Settlement?
Title: Re: Co. Tyrone LOOK UP REQUEST- Maj.Gen. William McCulloch and Frederick McCulloch
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 22 August 18 11:30 BST (UK)
I'd be inclined to think that would be  Hamilton to McCullogh as Dowry
Title: Re: Co. Tyrone LOOK UP REQUEST- Maj.Gen. William McCulloch and Frederick McCulloch
Post by: nigelspicer on Wednesday 22 August 18 11:51 BST (UK)
I've checked the Register of Deeds for 1834 but do not see one (if that is the right place to look). I will keep looking!
Title: Re: Co. Tyrone LOOK UP REQUEST- Maj.Gen. William McCulloch and Frederick McCulloch
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 22 August 18 12:02 BST (UK)
Didn't see one for 1834...


https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSMQ-LGF6?i=371&cat=185720



Only peeped at 1833...(maybe drawn up before actual Marriage?)