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I am trying to find any information regarding William Watson born Largo ,Fife shire Scotland abt 1831! His parents were David Watson and Margaret Thomson.
Any help about his family would be much appreciated.
I know that he came out to Victoria when I am not sure and he married again in 1887.
Thanking You ,
Annette ellen
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The death certificate would ask for "years in the colony" and details about marriages and children.
BDM VIC death
1906 / 102 WATSON Wm parents WATSON David / Margt (THOMSON)
marriage
1887 / 6730 WATSON William m. KETTELS Jane
What do you know about his first marriage and family?
Use this site -
https://prov.vic.gov.au/explore-collection/explore-topic/wills-and-probates
to find Will for William WATSON, storekeeper died 21 Jun 1906 Nagambie
beneficiaries are Ida Jane OWEN, married woman Bailieston, daughters Margaret NASH and Euphemia ROBERTSON, Dubbo NSW.
BDM NSW death
11688 / 1941 ROBERTSON Euphemia Orr parents William / Jane @ Merriwa
9855 / 1937 NASH Margaret parents William / Margaret @ Orange
BDM VIC birth
1905 / 15031 OWEN Wm Taylor parents - / Ida Jane (Taylor) @ Bailieston
The Age 28 Apr 1904 p6
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/197228335?
....WATSON of Kettlebridge..........Mrs ROBINSON, Mrs NASH........returning to Dubbo....
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Muswellbrook Chronicle 4 Jul 1941 p6
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/107542496?
....obit Euphemia Orr ROBERTSON......
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Hi Wivenhoe, I know that William married a Margaret Thomson and they had 2daughters. William was in the colony for 19yrs on his death certificate and on his marriage one it had that 1 was deceased. Thanks for all your help it’s much appreciated. Cheers Annette Ellen.
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Hi Annette,
Have you found William on the 1841 Scottish Census?
He is (I think) living at Largo with his mother. stepfather and siblings. His father David Watson must have died pre-1839 for his mother Margaret Thompson remarries in that year- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTPT-YRM
The family are living at Temple , Largo
Andrew Rodger age 35 Linen Hand Loom Weaver born Fife
Margaret Rodger age 40 born Fife
Margt Rodger age 2 "
William Watson age 10 "
Ann Watson age 8 "
James Gillan age 30 Salmon Fisher born outside census county
I would assume Ann is his full sister and Margt (Margaret) is his half sister.
Looby :)
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"..I am trying to find any information regarding William Watson born Largo ,Fife shire Scotland abt 1831!"
Can you please list all the information on the marriage certificate, 1887.
Can you please list all the information on the death certificate, 1906.
It would seem that you already have a lot of information. What information are you now looking for. You need to be specific. Are you looking for his origins.....life in Australia....what. It will save people wasting time and effort locating details that you already have.
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Wivenhoe ,Info on marriage,
Richmond 1st Oct 1887
William Watson Widower, Deceased Wife 1885.Children living 2 Dead 1
Jane Kettels
Widow deceased Husband 1884. William occChildren living 2.
Birthplace largo, Fife. shire Scotland
Birthplace Dundee Scotland.
Rank or profession Shipwright
Hotelkeeper.
age 57y
age 61y
Present residence Richmond
Present residence Richmond
Usual Residence Nagambie
Usual Residence Nagambie.
David Watson and Margaret Thomson
Fathers rank or Profession Ploughman.
Alexander Smith and Ann Archibald
Fathers rank or profession Master Mariner.
William Watson Death info
died mar 30th 1906 Bailieston County of Rodney
William Watson ,Retired Shipwright, Widower, Male, 75yr, Cancer of face, Cardiac Failure. 6yrs, W.P.Murphy. mar 30 1906.
David Watson Ploughman Margaret Watson ,maiden surname Thomson.
A.Kettels Stepson and Authorised Agency Bailieston.
Reg of Death Chas Baud mar 31 1906 Bailieston
Burial April 1st 1906 ai Nagambie Cemetery H A Baud.
Witness John David Toohey, James .C.Gordon.
Where born largo, Fife Shire Scotland 19 years in Victoria.
First marriage Dundee Scotland 24yrs Margaret Thomson.
Children Margaret 50, Eupphemia 42.
2nd Marriage Richmond Vic Jane Kettels Widow . now deceased no issue from this marriage.
Hope this helps. as I am trying to find out about his first marriage and if when that wife died , plus when he came out to Australia and if his children came. Plus if as it was written that 2 children were living and 1 dead ? So was there 3 children.
A lot of info I am being given by people and it is what I did not have. thanks for you imput which I do appreciate .
Regards Annette ellen.
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I think you may need to use the 'modify' button to put the jigsaw into a picture as it's all over the place & not easy reading :D
Maybe arrange it in the correct order with names/dates/occs next to the persons rather than a list?
Annie
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Annette I need to arrange this is a useful form, so that I can draw meaning from it. It is good practice to use upper case for family names so that the name stands out from given names, place names, locations etc. Is this the information as you are seeing it on the certificates? You need to give the names of witnesses for the marriage, 1887.
Marriage certificate WATSON - KETTELS 1887
Date and place: 1 Oct 1887 Richmond
Groom: William WATSON, widower, wife deceased 1885
Issue: Two living, one dead
Birthplace: Largo, Fifeshire, Scotland
Profession: Shipwright
Age: 57 years
Present residence: Richmond
Usual residence: Nagambie
Fathers name and rank: David WATSON, ploughman
Mothers name: Margaret THOMSON
Bride: Jane KETTELS, widow, husband William died 1884.
Issue: Two children living.
Birthplace: Dundee Scotland.
Profession: Hotelkeeper.
Age : 61 years
Present residence: Richmond
Usual residence: Nagambie
Fathers name and rank: Archibald SMITH, master mariner
Mothers name: Ann ARCHIBALD
Death certificate William WATSON 1906
Name: William WATSON, male, 75 years old
Date and place of death: 30 March 1906, Bailieston County of Rodney
Profession: Retired shipwright, widower.
Name and profession of father: David WATSON: ploughman
Name of mother: Margaret WATSON maiden surname THOMSON
Birthplace: Largo, Fifeshire Scotland
Years in the colony: 19 years in Victoria.
First marriage: Dundee Scotland
Age at marriage: 24yrs
Name of Spouse: Margaret THOMSON
Issue: Margaret 50 years, Euphemia 42 years
Second marriage: Richmond Vic
Age at marriage:
Name of spouse: Jane KETTELS, now deceased.
Issue: No issue of this marriage.
Informant: A.KETTELS, stepson and Authorised Agency Bailieston.
Cause of death: Cancer of the face, cardiac failure (duration of disease) 6 years
Medical Officer: W.P.Murphy. mar 30 1906.
Reg of Death: Chas Baud mar 31 1906 Bailieston
Burial: April 1st 1906 at Nagambie Cemetery H A Baud.
Witness: John David TOOHEY, James C.GORDON.
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Wivenhoe, glad you had the patience to put the info. in a format readable as it gave me a headache ;)
I'm easily confused & it did confuse me!
Annie
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In researching the origins of William WATSON, the origins of his daughters are relevant -
Margaret WATSON
NSW BDM marriage
3446/1892 WATSON Margaret m. NASH Richard @ Dubbo
NSW BDM death
9855 / 1937 NASH Margaret parents William / Margaret @ Orange
Dubbo Liberal and Macquarie Advocate 8 Jun 1937 p2
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/131592911?
............obit for Margaret NASH aged 80....husband Richard died 1934....no mention of children..
(b. ~ 1854)
Euphemia WATSON
VIC BDM marriage
6810 / 1888 WATSON Euphemia m. ROBINSON William
births
10249 / 1886 WATSON John parents - / Euphemia (Watson) @ FITZ
4355 / 1890 ROBINSON Margt Hannah parents / Euphemia (Watson) @ CWOOD age 11
death
1250 / 1887 WATSON Harry parents Wm / Euphemia (Watson) @ Heathcote
BDM NSW births
12418 / 1891 ROBINSON William G parents William / Euphemia @ Dubbo
19523 / 1893 ROBINSON Dorathea F E parents William / Euphemia @ Cassilis
12551 / 1894 ROBINSON Arthur parents William / Euphemia C @ Dubbo
20876 / 1898 ROBINSON Charles parents William / Euphemia @ Dubbo
21651 / 1900 ROBINSON Archibald A parents William / Euphemia @ Dubbo
31253 / 1902 ROBINSON Euphemia A A parents William / Euphemia @ Dubbo
32939 / 1905 ROBINSON Olive E G parents William / Euphemia @ Dubbo
a different family?
37502 / 1893 ROBERTSON Ethel A parents William / Euphemia @ Waterloo
11830 / 1894 ROBINSON Joseph W parents William / Euphemia @ Drummoyne
12151 / 1896 ROBINSON Frank B parents William / Euphemia @ Drummoyne
11701 / 1898 ROBINSON Phillis E parents William / Euphemia @ Drummoyne
2940 / 1901 ROBINSON Harold S parents William / Euphemia @ Drummoyne
2941 / 1901 ROBINSON Norman B parents William / Euphemia @ Drummoyne
Death
11688 / 1941 ROBERTSON Euphemia Orr parents William / Jane @ Merriwa
Mussellwellbrook Chronicle 4 July 1941 p6
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/107542496?
........obit for Euphemia Orr ROBINSON........75 years old....born Edinburgh.....
(b. ~ 1866)
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Wivenhoe, I cannot read properly it could be GEORGE ????one of the witness to the marriage and the other is MARY Mil???. the ink has faded! Sorry I cannot read it .
Annette ellen
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Maybe......
1881 Census transcription(LDS) from Scotlandspeople.
44 Ferry Road , Dundee , Forfar(shire) , Scotland.
William Watson 50 shipwright born Largo Fife
Margaret Watson 48 wife b. Buckhaven Fife
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That is a good find Ev......
Census 1881 @ 19 Airlie Place St Peter Angus
ANDERSON George 25 years, mercantile clerk b. Dundee Forfarshire
ANDERSON Caroline 24 years b. Tay Port Fifeshire
ANDERSON George 2 years b. Dundee Forfarshire
ANDERSON William 3 / 12 b. Dundee Forfarshire
WATSON Euphemia 15 years b. Buckhaven, Fifeshire
Census 1871 @ 35 Cotton Road
WATSON Margaret 37 years ships carpenters wife b. Wemyss Fifeshire
WATSON Euphemia Campbell 5 years b. Wemyss Fifeshire
Census 1861 @ Buckhaven, Wemyss, Fife
WATSON William 28 years ships carpenter b. Largo
WATSON Margaret 27 years b. Buckhaven Fifeshire
WATSON Margaret 5 years b. Dundee Angus
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Birth for Euphemia Campbell Watson 14 June 1865 Wemyss, Fife,Scotland. Parents William Watson and Margaret Eason. ( Buckhaven was part of Wemyss parish).
Possible birth for Margaret Watson showing on Scotland's People in Dundee in 1856.
There is a marriage for a William Watson and Margaret Eason 22 July 1854 Liff, Benvie and Invergowrie,Angus, Scotland.(Adjoins Dundee Parish).
Seems to be a death for Margaret Eason/Watson in Buckhaven in 1886 age 53.
Going back to Looby's post re the 1841 census and the likely remarriage of William Watson's mother there is this in 1881(LDS)
Temple (Largo)- same location as 1841
Margeret Watson or Rodger widow 85 born Largo Housekeeper
David Watson son unmarried 58 ship's carpenter born Largo
Margaret Rodger daur unm 40 Housekeeper born Largo
(Birth in Largo 2 Feb 1823 for David Watson- parents David Watson and Margaret Thomson).
There is a death showing in Scotland's People in Largo in 1882 for Margaret Thomson/Watson age 86.
William
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Thank you to all the later people who have put answers about William Watson it is a real great help for me and sorry for not naming you all as I am having laser eye surgery today and thought I would achknowledge you this way.Annette Ellen.Thank you all!
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1851 Census transcription FreeCEN.
Gellately Street , Dundee , Angus.
.......with the Crichton family..
William Watson 20 , lodger , ship wright , born Largo Fife.
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