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Title: Joseph Robb Pratt
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 22 August 18 04:35 BST (UK)
I’m looking for information on Joseph Robb Pratt.

This is his death: 18303/1957 PRATT Joseph Robb parents ROBERT and ELIZABETH BALMAIN

I’m hoping for anything in NSW - I have his Qld birth - that will indicate who he married and whether there were children. Electoral rolls maybe?

There is nothing on Ryerson for him, nor on Trove with Robb as middle name. There are some Joseph R.

He may have married Charlotte Houghton in WAGGA 1896 and had children, Florence, Isabella and Elsie. This is found on a GENI tree. However, I see that a Charlotte Pratt in Wagga has quite a few children after the 1897 birth of Florence and no father name is listed on NSWBDM.

The GENI tree has Charlotte’s death as 1949, but doesn’t say where. I can’t see it on NSWBDM.

There are two other Joseph R marriages to consider:

1417/1905 PRATT Joseph R to CARDWELL Euphemia J HAMILTON

1038/1920 PRATT Joseph R REEVES Elsie PETERSHAM

I do know it may be a case of having to purchase his death certificate.  ;)

Jamjar






Title: Re: Joseph Robb Pratt
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 22 August 18 04:49 BST (UK)
It looks like Isobella Evelyn wasn’t his.

GENI has her marrying William Conquit and the is supposedly her death:

10332/1926 CONQUIT EVELYN I parents GEORGE F and CHARLOTTE WAGGA WAGGA

Jamjar
Title: Re: Joseph Robb Pratt
Post by: wivenhoe on Wednesday 22 August 18 05:14 BST (UK)
BDM NSW death
27716 / 1953 PRATT  Phillip   parents Joseph Robb / Elsie May    @ Balmain

marriage
1038/1920 PRATT  Joseph R  m. REEVES Elsie   @ Petersham

NSW Police Gazette 3 December 1924
....missing Robert McDonald REEVES 14 years....mother Elsie PRATT 34 Oxford Street Burwood.....
Title: Re: Joseph Robb Pratt
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 22 August 18 05:53 BST (UK)
BDM NSW death
27716 / 1953 PRATT  Phillip   parents Joseph Robb / Elsie May    @ Balmain

marriage
1038/1920 PRATT  Joseph R  m. REEVES Elsie   @ Petersham

NSW Police Gazette 3 December 1924
....missing Robert McDonald REEVES 14 years....mother Elsie PRATT 34 Oxford Street Burwood.....

Thanks Wivenhoe.
Title: Re: Joseph Robb Pratt
Post by: rosball on Wednesday 22 August 18 06:06 BST (UK)
Good find Wivenhoe  :)

On the electoral roll, the wife is shown as Elsie Mary PRATT.  She and Joseph Robb PRATT are living at 11 Hanover St Balmain.

Then it appears that in 1958, Elsie Mary PRATT is living at 34 Keith Kells Road, Ryde

Below is death notice for an Elsie Mary PRATT who died Dec 1960, late of Ryde - it is a possibility

Ros
editied to fix road name

Title: Re: Joseph Robb Pratt
Post by: giblet on Wednesday 22 August 18 06:12 BST (UK)


This is his death: 18303/1957 PRATT Joseph Robb parents ROBERT and ELIZABETH BALMAIN


1038/1920 PRATT Joseph R REEVES Elsie PETERSHAM



Nepean Times (Penrith, NSW : 1882 - 1962) 
Thu 2 May 1957

MRS. ELSIE PRATT and family, of George and Millen Streets, Kingswood, wish to thank all those kind persons who assisted on the occasion of the. accident and subsequent death of her husband and their father; especially those who organised a tennis tournament, and others who helped in many ways with expressions of sympathy and floral tributes. Will all please accept this as personal thanks.
Title: Re: Joseph Robb Pratt
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 22 August 18 06:21 BST (UK)
Well, looks like a death transcript is going to be required after all.

Thank you all for the information.

Jamjar

Title: Re: Joseph Robb Pratt
Post by: rosball on Wednesday 22 August 18 06:28 BST (UK)
Just adding funeral notice for the Elsie Mary PRATT who died 1960

Ros
Title: Re: Joseph Robb Pratt
Post by: majm on Wednesday 22 August 18 06:33 BST (UK)
NSW ER 1902 BLAND, polling Wagga
PRATT as surname
Angelina, Flowerdale, domestic duties
Annie, Gardiner Street, d.d.
Edward, Brucedale, labourer
Edward, Brucedale, labourer (yes, two entries, could be two chaps)
John, North Wagga Wagga, innkeeper

JM
Title: Re: Joseph Robb Pratt
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 22 August 18 06:42 BST (UK)
Just adding funeral notice for the Elsie Mary PRATT who died 1960

Ros

Looks like Elsie is buried with son Phillip. Joseph isn’t there.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Joseph Robb Pratt
Post by: rosball on Wednesday 22 August 18 06:44 BST (UK)
Joseph Robb PRATT died on 22 August 1957 so it appears that the Nepean Times Announcement of gratitude in May 1957 was from another Elsie PRATT

Ros
(but it was a good find giblet  :) )
Title: Re: Joseph Robb Pratt
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 22 August 18 06:45 BST (UK)
Thanks JM. I’m suspecting Joseph didn’t spend much time in Wagga.

NSW ER 1902 BLAND, polling Wagga
PRATT as surname
Angelina, Flowerdale, domestic duties
Annie, Gardiner Street, d.d.
Edward, Brucedale, labourer
Edward, Brucedale, labourer (yes, two entries, could be two chaps)
John, North Wagga Wagga, innkeeper

JM
Title: Re: Joseph Robb Pratt
Post by: majm on Wednesday 22 August 18 06:52 BST (UK)
I am going through my hardcopy 1902-3 rolls.   I dont have the 1903-4 rolls which I understand are available via Ancestry.

Sands may have sightings ... city of Sydney     http://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/learn/search-our-collections/sands-directory   Country directory in 1901 ... link 
http://cdn.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/learn/history/archives/sands/1900-1909/1901-part7.pdf
Add   ;D  ;D  ::) oops
and
 http://cdn.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/learn/history/archives/sands/1900-1909/1901-part8.pdf


JM
Title: Re: Joseph Robb Pratt
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 22 August 18 07:13 BST (UK)
What I’d like is to discover now is how many children he had. So far it looks like a possible one with Charlotte and then Phillip with Elsie.

Someone sent me a photo of Joseph’s brother George Bell Pratt, but I can’t recall who. I know It wasn’t anyone in my living family. Pity really as they might have known Joseph, too.

Jamjar



Title: Re: Joseph Robb Pratt
Post by: giblet on Wednesday 22 August 18 07:18 BST (UK)

(but it was a good find giblet  :) )

Yeah if i had the right family it would have been  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Joseph Robb Pratt
Post by: Aussie1947 on Wednesday 22 August 18 09:50 BST (UK)
Hi
1900 Queensland State Electoral Roll
Electoral District of Rockhampton North

PRATT Robert, 60, Lake's Creek, butcher.
PRATT Joseph Robb, 35, Lake's Creek, butcher

1910 Queensland State Electoral Roll
Electoral District of Rockhampton North

PRATT Elizabeth, Lake's Creek, domestic duties
PRATT George Bell, Koongall, butcher
PRATT Ida Louise, Yaamba road near Moore's Creek, domestic duties
PRATT Joseph Robb, Lake's Creek, boner
PRATT Robert, Lake's Creek, butcher.
PRATT Robert, Lake's Creek, butcher
PRATT Sarah Elizabeth, Koongall, domestic duties

Gerry

Corrected residence to Lake's Creek.
Title: Re: Joseph Robb Pratt
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 22 August 18 10:01 BST (UK)
Gerry, I have all the family information I need for Qld at present.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Joseph Robb Pratt
Post by: Aussie1947 on Wednesday 22 August 18 23:32 BST (UK)
Hi Jamjar,

Ok about having the Queensland info.

Gerry

Title: Re: Joseph Robb Pratt
Post by: majm on Thursday 23 August 18 00:56 BST (UK)
 :) 

I have NOT found Euphemia PRATT on any NSW roll prior to WWI, and notice she is NOT on Gerry's 1910 Qld roll offering...  :)  I checked Newcastle etc and the polling place of Hamilton (1905 marriage sighting) - possible death indexed at NSW BDM online for 1960 as Euphemia Jean PRATT.

I’m looking for information on Joseph Robb Pratt.

This is his death: 18303/1957 PRATT Joseph Robb parents ROBERT and ELIZABETH BALMAIN

I’m hoping for anything in NSW - I have his Qld birth - that will indicate who he married and whether there were children. Electoral rolls maybe?

There is nothing on Ryerson for him, nor on Trove with Robb as middle name. There are some Joseph R.

He may have married Charlotte Houghton in WAGGA 1896 and had children, Florence, Isabella and Elsie. This is found on a GENI tree. However, I see that a Charlotte Pratt in Wagga has quite a few children after the 1897 birth of Florence and no father name is listed on NSWBDM.

The GENI tree has Charlotte’s death as 1949, but doesn’t say where. I can’t see it on NSWBDM.

There are two other Joseph R marriages to consider:

1417/1905 PRATT Joseph R to CARDWELL Euphemia J          HAMILTON

1038/1920 PRATT Joseph R REEVES Elsie PETERSHAM

I do know it may be a case of having to purchase his death certificate.  ;)

Jamjar

JM
Title: Re: Joseph Robb Pratt
Post by: majm on Thursday 23 August 18 01:19 BST (UK)
 :)

I am sure that Euphemia Jean was wife of Joseph Richard as per Ryerson sightings... both late of Lakemba, both died 1960  SMH 23 March for Euphemia and SMH 9 July for Joseph.

JM