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Title: 1871 Kirkcudbrightshire census - SINCLAIR
Post by: Annette Witherby on Wednesday 10 August 05 07:14 BST (UK)
I am searching for the following SINCLAIR  family.  In 1851 they appeared in the Dumphries Census. 
They were all born in Tongland, Kirk.  to parents Farquhar and Mary Sinclair.

Jannot. ch 1838
Archibald.  b 1841
John  b 1842
Margaret. b 1846
Elizabeth.  b 1848
Robert Shaw b 1850
Euphemia. b 1855

Thankyou for any help,  Annette
Title: Re: 1871 Kirkcudbrightshire census - SINCLAIR
Post by: Callywoods on Tuesday 11 October 05 16:09 BST (UK)
I am not related to your Sinclairs but live  near Tongland and have an 1841 Census for Togland. I have found living at a farm called Barstilby

SINCLAIR Farquar 30, ag.lab. born Scotland
SINCLAIR Mary 25
SINCLAIR Jannet 3
SINCLAIR Archibald 1

Hope this is some use.
Callywoods
Title: Re: 1871 Kirkcudbrightshire census - SINCLAIR
Post by: Annette Witherby on Tuesday 11 October 05 22:53 BST (UK)
Hello Callywoods,

Many thanks for your information.

How lucky you are to be living near the area.  Over here in Aussie I seem so far away.

You have supplied me with another piece of my Scottish puzzle.

Maybe I could ask you a question regarding Farquhar's father and brother who were both soldiers.  Do you think they would have joined the Argyll Highlanders in the 1800's?

Once again thankyou for your help,

Regards,  Annette
Title: Re: 1871 Kirkcudbrightshire census - SINCLAIR
Post by: Annette Witherby on Tuesday 11 October 05 23:33 BST (UK)
Hi again Callywoods,

Could I possibly impose on you again and ask if you would refer to the 1841 census again for me.

Farquhar's father, Mother and brother:

SINCLAIR,  Walter  b Tyree  b abt.. 1779  - would be perhaps around 60.

   "             Marion     "       ch 1782

   "             Angus      "        ch 1809

Your help much appreciated.     Annette
Title: Re: 1871 Kirkcudbrightshire census - SINCLAIR
Post by: Callywoods on Wednesday 12 October 05 07:46 BST (UK)
Hi Annette, Sorry I only have 1841 census for the local area so cant help you with Tyree but I would think it quite likely that men from there would join the Argyll Highlanders.
Very happy to help with any other questions - if I can!
Title: Re: 1871 Kirkcudbrightshire census - SINCLAIR
Post by: Callywoods on Friday 14 October 05 08:45 BST (UK)
It's me again Annette!
I have just been looking through your posts and I wonder if you ever look at the Scotlands People website? There you can view all Scottish BMD certificates from 1855 so you should find your Farquar's death cert, which should have his parents names. Scottish certs are very informative. Sorry if you know all this already! Happy hunting!  Callywoods  :)
Title: Re: 1871 Kirkcudbrightshire census - SINCLAIR
Post by: Annette Witherby on Friday 14 October 05 13:43 BST (UK)
Hello Callywoods,

I happen to have the death cert. of Farquhar Sinclair but it offers more questions than answers.
The IGI tells me his father was Walter , and his mother was Marion McArthur.

The death cert, with his daughter as the informant states that his mother was Agnes McNaught.
Whether Walter remarried, I am yet to uncover.

Then again seeing Farquhar died on the 29th February maybe it is a joke on his descendants.

Farquhar was born in Tiree, his wife in Dumphries,  but they had moved to Tongland where 6 of their 7 children were born.
The 6th child, Robert married a lass from Anworth and they sailed out here to Aust.  in 1881.  Hence my branch of the  family here began and Robert is my great grandfather.

Thanks again and tomorrow I will take another look at the Scotlands People.
That would be in between watching the cricket test between Aust. and the rest of the world.  So far so good.

Regards,  Annette

Title: Re: 1871 Kirkcudbrightshire census - SINCLAIR
Post by: Callywoods on Friday 14 October 05 14:03 BST (UK)
I would be inclined to believe the daughter rather than IGI!
What was Robert's wife's name? I am very interested in Anwoth (no R) as my ancestors come from there and it's just 2 miles from here.
Hope you enjoy the cricket!
Title: Re: 1871 Kirkcudbrightshire census - SINCLAIR
Post by: Annette Witherby on Friday 14 October 05 22:56 BST (UK)
Good morning,  yes I am refreshed to start the day.

Robert's wife was Elizabeth Beattie.    Father: James Beattie.  Mother: Mary Welsh.  Elizabeth was born  23.1.1959.
Her death cert states that she was born in Gatehouse.  How would this be situated to Anwoth?   Robert and Elizabeth married in Gatehouse of Fleet.

I have yet to obtain Elizabeths B/C and their marriage cert.

Thankyou for the spelling correction.  I have many charts I must alter today.
It really is no wonder mistakes happen because on Robert's D/C the place of marriage is "Garehouse of Fleck".  It does get hard at times.

I am researching the Beatties too but going back to early 1800's is difficult.

Many thanks,  Annette
Title: Re: 1871 Kirkcudbrightshire census - SINCLAIR
Post by: Callywoods on Saturday 15 October 05 08:25 BST (UK)
Good morning Annette!  A little geography lesson for you.
The 2 parishes of Anwoth and Girthon are next to each other, divided by the River Fleet which flows into the sea. In the late 1700s the mill town of Gatehouse of Fleet was built on the river Fleet so that half the town was in Anwoth and half in Girthon.  So your Beatties would have lived in the Anwoth part of the town (or on one of the farms in the parish)
Gatehouse is now little more than a village.
End of lesson!
Title: Re: 1871 Kirkcudbrightshire census - SINCLAIR
Post by: Annette Witherby on Saturday 15 October 05 21:54 BST (UK)
Hi Callywoods,

THankyou for the lesson.    I looked in the Genuki site and found the parish map for Kirkcudbrightshire and would you believe there it was, the mis spelled Anworh.  But I know I will not make the mistake again.  Thankyou.

It is interesting to mark the different parishes with the names of each branch of the family and understand how their lives would have crossed.

Regards,  Annette
Title: Re: 1871 Kirkcudbrightshire census - SINCLAIR
Post by: Rachel Gould on Tuesday 31 January 17 22:28 GMT (UK)
Hi! i know this reply is 12 years later! However, i was checking out our family tree history today with my gran and great uncle at the register house in edinburgh and we traced our family back to Farquahar and Mary Sinclair also! they were my great great great great great grandparents!
Title: Re: 1871 Kirkcudbrightshire census - SINCLAIR
Post by: Annette Witherby on Wednesday 01 February 17 02:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Rachel,

I have sent you a Private message with info that may be interesting for you.

Thanks Rachael
Title: Re: 1871 Kirkcudbrightshire census - SINCLAIR
Post by: Rachel Gould on Wednesday 01 February 17 20:23 GMT (UK)
Hi Annette,

I cant reply to your private message for some reason, it wont let me

I found out that it was his daughter Janet that is in our line.
We dont know much about siblings as we only had the day so we focused on parents etc,
I am young yes haha i am 20! My gran is 74 and has caught the bug for finding her ancestors!

Rachel :)
Title: Re: 1871 Kirkcudbrightshire census - SINCLAIR
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 01 February 17 20:36 GMT (UK)
Hi Rachel

You need to have made 3 posts to be able to send PMs, so if you reply to this (say anything!), you should be able to contact Annette.

Gadget

Welcome to Rootchat  ;D
Title: Re: 1871 Kirkcudbrightshire census - SINCLAIR
Post by: Rachel Gould on Wednesday 01 February 17 22:41 GMT (UK)
Ahh thank you!