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Title: 1939 Prune Cottage Alysbury
Post by: magslote on Saturday 25 August 18 12:38 BST (UK)
The occupants were mary.a gillingham born.5.4.1894 married
Lewis A Gillingham born 14.10.1895 married
Mary.E.Wakelin, nee Gillingham born 9.10.1915, single, a boxmaker.would like to follow this family, and any imfo as well,please, it may, reveal, adoptions,????thankyou Margaret.
Title: Re: 1939 Prune Cottage Alysbury
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 August 18 12:59 BST (UK)
Here's their marriage: 

Lewis Augustus Gillingham
Age:   23  birthabt 1895
Marriage :   15 Dec 1918
Marriage Place:   Hackney Wick, Hackney, England
Father:   Emmanuel Benjamin Gillingham
Spouse:   Mary Ann Hardy

Both Lewis and his father were sausage skin manufacturers.
Mary Anne's father was Henry Hardy a rope maker.
Title: Re: 1939 Prune Cottage Alysbury
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 August 18 13:02 BST (UK)
Lewis's death

Lewis Augustus Gillingham
Death Age:   86
Birth Date:   14 Oct 1895
Registration:   Sep 1982
Registration district:   Aylesbury  Buckinghamshire
Volume:   19
Page:   0739
Title: Re: 1939 Prune Cottage Alysbury
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 August 18 13:04 BST (UK)
I can't find a birth for Mary E Wakelin nee Gillingham under Hardy or Gillingham. I see she was born before their marriage as well.
Title: Re: 1939 Prune Cottage Alysbury
Post by: magslote on Saturday 25 August 18 13:42 BST (UK)
Thankyou groom SO very much.Margaret.
Title: Marriage Alyesbury 1940, 3a/5038
Post by: magslote on Saturday 25 August 18 15:33 BST (UK)
Lets start again, now I have the right imfo ,for any imfo on  Marie L Blake, married a MEAD, hearsay, she may have been adopted???also Dorothy.M. Blake, married a Reynolds 1924 in Alyesbury.
Albert/Rosetta, were their parents, sorry, any imfo apprieciated,Margaret.
Title: Re: 1939 Prune Cottage Alysbury
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 August 18 20:13 BST (UK)
Dorothy M Blake married George A Reynolds 1924

Marie L Blake married Edward Mead 1940 Aylesbury

I can't see Marie in the 1939 or in 1911.

Dorothy is with parents in 1901 and 1911 - from Family Search

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9Y1-Z2L

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7V5-9QM
Title: Re: 1939 Prune Cottage Alysbury
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 August 18 20:18 BST (UK)
Dorothy M Reynolds was born 14 Sep 1899. 

From the GRO site

BLAKE, DOROTHY  MARY  mmn   HORSLER     
1899  D Quarter
WYCOMBE 
Volume 03A  Page 797
Title: Re: 1939 Prune Cottage Alysbury
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 August 18 20:22 BST (UK)
The only Blake/Horsler marriage I can see is this possible on the same page from Freebmd

Marriages Sep 1887   
                       
BLAKE    Frederick William       
HORSLER    Sarah Ann       
Luton    3b   745    

Where did you get their parents names from?
Title: Re: 1939 Prune Cottage Alysbury
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 August 18 20:32 BST (UK)
Other Blake/Horsler children - possible parents Charles and Louisa.

Gladys   1901  J Quarter in WYCOMBE  Volume 03A  Page 837

Births Jun 1912 
Blake    Chrissie   mmn  Horsler    Wycombe    3a   1906   

Births Sep 1915   
Blake    Winifred L    mmn Horsler    Wycombe    3a   1746
Title: Re: 1939 Prune Cottage Alysbury
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 August 18 20:53 BST (UK)
Death

Dorothy Mary Reynolds
Age:   76
Birth :   17 Sep 1899
Jun 1976
Aylesbury Buckinghamshire
Volume:   19
Page:   0784
Title: Re: 1939 Prune Cottage Alysbury
Post by: jennifer c on Saturday 25 August 18 21:28 BST (UK)
Mary E Gillingham married Charles E Wakelin March qtr 1941 Aylesbury.

Jennifer
Title: Re: 1939 Prune Cottage Alysbury
Post by: magslote on Sunday 26 August 18 07:37 BST (UK)
Thankyou very much for your time, and imfo, just given the three girls name of Blake, names only, no year of births, then went onto, Buckinghamshire, and found the marriages in that county, its only hearsay??? but, the may have been adopted, as their father Albert Blake had died, and Rosetta their mother married to A.E.Hardy, very many thanks.Margaret.
Title: Re: 1939 Prune Cottage Alysbury
Post by: mckha489 on Sunday 26 August 18 08:20 BST (UK)
Name:   Albert Blake
Date of Registration:   Jan-Feb-Mar 1918
Registration district:   West Ham
Inferred County:   Essex
Spouse:   Rosetta Gillingham
Volume Number:   4a
Page Number:   674

This doesn't fit with Dorothy etc being their child?
Is Albert perhaps a brother?
Title: Re: 1939 Prune Cottage Alysbury
Post by: mckha489 on Sunday 26 August 18 08:22 BST (UK)
1939 Rosetta HARDY b 9/9/1899 (so she can't have been having children that same year!)
in Stoke Newington with Arthur E HARDY (dob 25/04/1900)


added - she is the sister of Lewis A GILLINGHAM who is at Prune cottage Ayelsbury in 1939.
(1901 census)
Title: Re: 1939 Prune Cottage Alysbury
Post by: magslote on Sunday 26 August 18 08:32 BST (UK)
Thankyou mckha489, Albert Blake is the father.Margaret.
Title: Re: 1939 Prune Cottage Alysbury
Post by: mckha489 on Sunday 26 August 18 08:34 BST (UK)
Are you saying they are the children of Albert BLAKE and a previous wife?  Rosetta GILLINGHAM being a second wife?
Title: Re: 1939 Prune Cottage Alysbury
Post by: magslote on Sunday 26 August 18 08:48 BST (UK)
Thankyou, no worries, Margaret.
Title: Re: 1939 Prune Cottage Alysbury
Post by: mckha489 on Sunday 26 August 18 08:55 BST (UK)
I was just typing this up, when yours came in, so will finish, but sounds like you might know it all in any case

marriage of Rosetta BLAKE to Alfred Edward HARDY is , according to a tree on ancestry with no source,  23 May 1924.
So looking for BLAKE children with GILLINGHAM mother between 1918 and 1924  have  (from FreeBMD)


Surname    First name(s)    Mother    District    Vol    Page
Births Dec 1918
Blake    Rosetta I    Gillingham    Poplar    1c   483
Births Mar 1920
Blake    Maria L    Gillingham    Poplar    1c   960   
Births Jun 1921
Blake    Dorothy B    Gillingham    Poplar    1c   679   
Births Sep 1922 
Blake    Georgina H G
Title: Re: 1939 Prune Cottage Alysbury
Post by: magslote on Sunday 26 August 18 09:25 BST (UK)
That seems correct thankyou so much, just trying to find who was Albert Blakes first marriage, he remarried in 1918, a widower, I think aged 43, when his second marriage to  Gillingham in 1918, no worries,  will still keep looking, thankyou.Margaret.
Title: Re: 1939 Prune Cottage Alysbury
Post by: mckha489 on Sunday 26 August 18 09:51 BST (UK)
Possible Marriages

Blake  Rosetta I    Tubb    Edmonton    5e   778   
Tubb    Eric S W    Blake    Edmonton. 5e 778

Blake Dorothy B    George    Edmonton    3a   3785
George    Henry J A    Blake    Edmonton    3a   3785    

Georgina H G died in 1924

ANd  you have Maria already
Title: Re: 1939 Prune Cottage Alysbury
Post by: groom on Sunday 26 August 18 10:12 BST (UK)
So if I've followed this correctly, the Buckinghamshire family are a different family?
Title: Re: 1939 Prune Cottage Alysbury
Post by: mckha489 on Sunday 26 August 18 10:35 BST (UK)
Lewis Gillingham in Aylesbury  is a brother of Rosetta Gillingham who married Blake.
I have no idea who Mary Wakelin is.

I think that Marriage of Marie G to Edmund Mead you found must be correct.

I think the Dorothy M  m Reynolds was a wild goose chase (which was a shame becaus I was a bit interested in a Reynolds connection)

OP trying to identify Albert BLAKE.  Presuming he died between 1921 and 1924 one I can see that fits the age suggested is

Deaths Mar 1922
Blake    Albert    50    Pancras    1b   60

I wonder what his occupation at the 1924 marriage is
Added ..if he was a licensed victualled in poplar, then his wife Maude died in 1917and they had no children
Title: Re: 1939 Prune Cottage Alysbury
Post by: magslote on Sunday 26 August 18 10:57 BST (UK)
Since last post found more on Albert Blake born 1873 hockwold norfolk, found family 1901,33 downham rd hackney, thats him ok, and1911, 69 cadogan terrace popular, he was a landlord,on both censuses, his first wife ?? Maud.J.? 1872 wiltshire,or Ottrey devonshire, with being a landlord, he may have made a will??????thanks Margaret.
Title: Re: 1939 Prune Cottage Alysbury
Post by: mckha489 on Sunday 26 August 18 11:07 BST (UK)
No, no will. Administration to Rosetta Blake
Title: Re: 1939 Prune Cottage Alysbury
Post by: magslote on Sunday 26 August 18 11:08 BST (UK)
thankyou SO much for your help once more.Margaret.