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Title: McConnell in Fermoy
Post by: Henry7 on Sunday 26 August 18 15:12 BST (UK)
I'm trying to track down Quentin McConnell of Fermoy, and particularly exactly when he died.

He was born on 4th March 1785 in Dailly, Ayrshire, Scotland, and moved to Ireland before 1813, when he was married in Cork.  He worked as a millwright, and there is a story that he was the proprietor of a "large ironworks" at Fermoy, but I suspect this is simply a much later piece of embroidery.

His son, born in Fermoy on 1st January 1815, was James Edward McConnell who was one of the founders of the Institution of Mechanical Engineers in 1846.  He became quite well-known, but his father's details are elusive.  Quentin's death has been given as occurring in 1819 - or in 1821.

I'd be very grateful for any information - anything at all!  Or for hints about how to discover any details about him during his time in Ireland. 

Harry.
Title: Re: McConnell in Fermoy
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 26 August 18 16:08 BST (UK)
Religion?
Title: Re: McConnell in Fermoy
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 26 August 18 16:12 BST (UK)
If he was RC..... the Registers for Fermoy don't include Deaths!
Title: Re: McConnell in Fermoy
Post by: Henry7 on Sunday 26 August 18 16:20 BST (UK)
I think he'd have been a Church of Scotland member (his family are buried in Dailly parish churchyard) and his son was Church of England when he lived in Buckinghamshire, so I'd guess he wasn't a Catholic.  C of I, perhaps? 
Title: Re: McConnell in Fermoy
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 26 August 18 16:27 BST (UK)
Church Baptism, Marriage and Burial results for QUENTIN MC CONNELL

No results found 

https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/

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Baptism, Marriage and Burial results for Edward MC CONNELL
Area - DUBLIN (COI)

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Only 3, all Dublin, none with father Quentin
Title: Re: McConnell in Fermoy
Post by: Henry7 on Sunday 26 August 18 16:40 BST (UK)
Many thanks for looking, Hallmark!   
Title: Re: McConnell in Fermoy
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 26 August 18 16:46 BST (UK)
Fermoy C of I     Cloyne Cork     B 1838-1914    M.  1838-1956    D.   1844-2000
Title: Re: McConnell in Fermoy
Post by: dathai on Sunday 26 August 18 16:48 BST (UK)
https://www.GenesReunited.co.nz/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1367798
Title: Re: McConnell in Fermoy
Post by: Henry7 on Sunday 26 August 18 17:13 BST (UK)
Thanks again Hallmark, and thanks too, dathai - your find produces yet another date for Quentin's death: 1815!
Title: Re: McConnell in Fermoy
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 26 August 18 17:19 BST (UK)
https://www.dia.ie/architects/view/3785/MCCONNELL%2C+JAMES+EDWARD+%23


Quentin McConnell, proprietor of a large ironworks.....
Title: Re: McConnell in Fermoy
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 26 August 18 17:21 BST (UK)
JAMES EDWARD McCONNELL was born on the 1st of January, 1815, at Fermoy, Co. Cork, where his father, Mr. Quentin McConnell, possessed a fairly prosperous business in large ironworks.

He was left fatherless at the age of four


https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/James_Edward_McConnell
Title: Re: McConnell in Fermoy
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 26 August 18 17:41 BST (UK)
You could trying asking here....

https://theirishaesthete.com/2014/12/13/supply-and-demand/#comments

Maybe he even lived in one of these houses   ;D  ;D
Title: Re: McConnell in Fermoy
Post by: Henry7 on Sunday 26 August 18 17:45 BST (UK)
Yes, hallmark, but where was this alleged "large ironworks"?  I've looked for it on old maps and in various books.  Quentin was a millwright, no family money so far as I can see, and I suspect the description of him having been the proprietor was probably a bit of an exaggeration.

His son, after he became wealthy, had a family tree drawn up which contains some real blarney - that ancestors fought for Bonnie Prince Charlie - very unlikely given their background in Ayrshire, and I could find no trace of any such thing among the family's records in the Scottish Record Office.  So maybe the "large ironworks" story came from the same source - perhaps someone telling James Edward McConnell what he wanted to hear.

 
Title: Re: McConnell in Fermoy
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 26 August 18 17:51 BST (UK)
I don't know which is why I suggested asking irishasthete
Title: Re: McConnell in Fermoy
Post by: Henry7 on Sunday 26 August 18 17:53 BST (UK)
Fascinating houses, hallmark!

I believe a plaque has been put up on the house in Fermoy where J. E. McConnell was born, but I haven't yet been to see it.

Harry.
Title: Re: McConnell in Fermoy
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 26 August 18 17:56 BST (UK)
So....ask! 
Title: Re: McConnell in Fermoy
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 26 August 18 18:01 BST (UK)
Maybe he even lived in one of these houses !!
Title: Re: McConnell in Fermoy
Post by: RobertCasey on Sunday 02 September 18 16:41 BST (UK)
You may want to consider a 67 marker test at Family Tree DNA. Munster, Ireland has two very large haplogroups of testers (L226 and CTS4466). Each project has around 1,000 testers. L226 has one O'Connell tester in Kerry County:  Joannis Connyll - Tuosist, Kerry, Ireland
Title: Re: McConnell in Fermoy
Post by: WAY1 on Saturday 18 January 20 23:40 GMT (UK)
Hi,
I have an American lady trying to find out more on Quintin/Quentin McConnell. Did anyone find out when and where he died. Graces Guide hints at him leaving his 4 year old son James Edward Mconnell
fatherless c1819.
Any comments would be appreciated so I can pass them on to Ruth.
There is some contextual  info here https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/roots.rootsweb.com/2019/6/
Thanks Derek
Title: Re: McConnell in Fermoy
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 19 January 20 02:49 GMT (UK)


I'd be inclined to ask the Fermoy Historical Society but they only have phone number or email the Church of Ireland and ask if there is a Plaque inside Church or a gravestone for him.


http://www.rootschat.com/links/01owd/   page 6





Title: Re: McConnell in Fermoy
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 19 January 20 02:54 GMT (UK)


Dr. Colin Rynne  might know...

email address on https://www.ucc.ie/en/archaeology/community/localsocieties/