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Title: Request for help with a 1921 marriage please...
Post by: mevans on Sunday 26 August 18 18:14 BST (UK)
 Hello folks. I am attempting to find the following couple, FRANK GLEDHILL & LIILIAN SPENCER. There is a marriage: June Qtr 1921 Wellingboro 3b 289 with names that match & this would fit in with the birth of their son in 1924. To trace them back further I really need to find their fathers names on the marriage certificate if this is possible. I am having difficulty finding Northants records on line that matches the date of this marriage. Any advice will be much appreciated.
Many thanks,
Margaret.
Title: Re: Request for help with a 1921 marriage please...
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 26 August 18 18:21 BST (UK)
To look up a marriage in parish records you have to know which church it took place in.  It could have been a civil marriage which can't be looked up

These are all the areas covered by the Wellingborough RD

https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/wellingborough.html
Title: Re: Request for help with a 1921 marriage please...
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 26 August 18 18:30 BST (UK)
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& this would fit in with the birth of their son in 1924.

Is that the birth in Barnsley?
Title: Re: Request for help with a 1921 marriage please...
Post by: mevans on Sunday 26 August 18 18:31 BST (UK)
 Carole, Thank you for your prompt reply... I can see that I will need a lot of patience to proceed with this search !!! Yes- their son was born in Barnsley in 1924.
My thanks again.
Margaret.
Title: Re: Request for help with a 1921 marriage please...
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 26 August 18 18:49 BST (UK)
I think you will need to buy a copy of that marriage cert.  A pdf copy is only around £6+

Do you know where and when either Frank or Lilian died?  Their ages would possibly give a clue to their births.  Gledhill seems to be a Yorkshire surname

Have you found them on the 1939 register as that would (hopefully) give their full birthdates
Title: Re: Request for help with a 1921 marriage please...
Post by: mevans on Sunday 26 August 18 18:57 BST (UK)
Hello Carole, I didn't have much luck finding MY couple on the 1939 in Barnsley (although there is  one family with matching names would you believe) but they were both born in 1913 so not the ones I needed. But... just this minute I have found them as PLEDHILL living in Coventry in 1939 & of course I now have their DOB which will be useful carrying me further with my search.
 Many thanks again.
Margaret.
Title: Re: Request for help with a 1921 marriage please...
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 26 August 18 19:47 BST (UK)
I've just found this birth ??

Births March qtr 1896   
Spencer    Lilian Mary         Wellingborough    3b   131
Title: Re: Request for help with a 1921 marriage please...
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 26 August 18 19:54 BST (UK)
See it's a toss up for Frank between Barnsley and Dewsbury ???
Title: Re: Request for help with a 1921 marriage please...
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 26 August 18 19:58 BST (UK)
The 1896 birth shows Lilian's mothers maiden name as Rolfe

Possible marriage for parents?

Marriages June qtr 1876   
Rolfe    Elizabeth         Brixworth    3b   222      
Spencer     George William        
Title: Re: Request for help with a 1921 marriage please...
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 26 August 18 20:10 BST (UK)
The 1892 Barnsley birth was illegitimate

The 1892 Dewsbury birth - mmn was Hinchcliffe
Title: Re: Request for help with a 1921 marriage please...
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 26 August 18 20:17 BST (UK)
Frank died 20.8.1966 Nuneaton.  Administration to widow Lilian Mary Gledhill

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk

Lilian Mary Gledhill b 16.11.1895 died 23.11.1977 Nuneaton  Administration granted but no name shown

Use link above but search 1978 - not 1977
Title: Re: Request for help with a 1921 marriage please...
Post by: dawnsh on Sunday 26 August 18 22:00 BST (UK)
The page range for Wellingborough June 1921 is 275-355. The entry you are interested in at 289 is at the lower end of the range inferring an Anglican parish marriage.

I think you will need to buy a copy of that marriage cert.  A pdf copy is only around £6+

Marriages are not included in the GRO pdf scheme, the cert will cost £9.25

I'm not sure of the order of Anglican churches in the GRO index, but there's a list of pssible parishes here

https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/wellingborough.html

Title: Re: Request for help with a 1921 marriage please...
Post by: mevans on Sunday 26 August 18 23:33 BST (UK)
Wow! Thank you both for this great information. It was so nice of you help me. Bless you.
  Thank you so much.
Margaret.