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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Glamorganshire => Topic started by: Moiralou on Monday 27 August 18 18:25 BST (UK)
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Hello,
I am trying to find where my grandmother’s grandfather was buried. I have found his burial record:
“Burials in the Parish of St Tyfaelog, Pontlottyn in the County of Glamorgan in the year 1896
Edward Owen 15 Victoria St Pontlottyn 45 yrs July 23”
I’ve read elsewhere on this forum that St Tyfaelog’s does not have a cemetery. If anyone can point me in the right direction to get this information, I’d appreciate it.
Thanks, Ann
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Not sure how your Welsh is, but here's an article/obit from "Y LLan" [A weekly Welsh and English language newspaper of the Anglican Church in Wales, which circulated throughout Wales] on 31 July 1896
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3683824/3683835/59/
It notes that he was buried in Fochrhiw Cemetery , attended by a numerous crowd who came to pay their last respects. Service take by Rev T Rees, vicar, and his faithful assistants last Tuesday.
It doesn't tell you an awful lot about the man, except he had a short but burdensome final illness (although his health hadn't been good for a while and it suggests he had number of workplace accidents) and was a quiet neighbour, good Christian etc.
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Mabel, I am is the US and my Welsh is basically non existent, but I’m very excited to have this information, thank you so much for looking this up for me, and so quickly!
Ann
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Ann, try Rhymney cemetery - Pontlottyn is at the southern most end of that town. The cemetery comes under the jurisdiction now of Caerphilly County Borough Council - if you give them a call they might be able to check the records for you
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Thank you - I will check that out. Ann
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Pentwyn Churchyard, (St Marys) Fochriw. Following Mabel's find.
https://www.peoplescollection.wales/items/487246 spreadsheet, by surname listed in alphabetical order. Edward Owen of address you gave is buried here and listed.
https://www.peoplescollection.wales/items/487249 registers
https://www.flickr.com/photos/29492623@N04/3805105680 Lots of other pics on Google.
If problems viewing spreadsheet, click on Author name and scroll down to burial spreadsheet, seems to load better. You may find other family members!
Good luck,
Cas
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No luck viewing the spreadsheet. I did as you suggested but can only get as far as Ballard.
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No luck viewing the spreadsheet. I did as you suggested but can only get as far as Ballard.
Once in spreadsheet there is a small arrow top right corner, it gives the option to view in books..much easier to scroll through. I am using an iPad. There is also a print option but it has 130 pages.
If further probs let me know who you are looking for within area, will take a look.
Cas
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Thanks for that. I'll have another look ! However, if it doesn't work ............ PRICE, anyone Price! There were about 11 children in the family I'm looking at, so quite possibly several of the family are buried there.
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There are 50+ with surname Price buried there pages 62/63
Would not be able to list all :P
Cas
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There is an option to email as a PDF, if any help :-\
Cas
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Thanks Cas, that worked a treat. Found 2 definites and 2 possibles. What a very interesting document but so sad to see so many babies/children.
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Pentwyn Churchyard, (St Marys) Fochriw. Following Mabel's find.
https://www.peoplescollection.wales/items/487246 spreadsheet, by surname listed in alphabetical order. Edward Owen of address you gave is buried here and listed.
https://www.peoplescollection.wales/items/487249 registers
https://www.flickr.com/photos/29492623@N04/3805105680 Lots of other pics on Google.
If problems viewing spreadsheet, click on Author name and scroll down to burial spreadsheet, seems to load better. You may find other family members!
Good luck,
Cas
Thank you very much for this, Cas. I found Edward, and also, his wife Jane (my Grandmother’s grandmother) and their son, Edward Thomas. Will have to decipher further to figure out if they are buried together, or in different locations. This is the first I have seen on the date of Jane’s death. Perhaps I can visit the cemetery some day.
Thanks again, Ann
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Glad to help, accolades to the author that amassed all info of cem burials info before death, a true family historian of his area.
Cas
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Moiralou, when the weather gets a little better I will go up to Fochriw and get a photo of the Owen grave (graves) headstone if there is one.
Ray
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Attached is the photo of Edward Owen headstone. The headstone gives an age of 46 years and a date of death of 19 July 1896. No inscription for Jane or son Edward Thomas but there were a few graves each side with no headstone.
Ray
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Thanks, Ray. It was very kind of you to do that for me. I really appreciate it.
On the spreadsheet that Cas provided, my relatives are listed
Edward Owen grave number A492
Jane Owen grave number F99
Edward Thomas Owen grave number F24
Was it difficult to find the headstone? Do you know if the (very) different grave numbers means their graves are not near each other? Is there a map of the graveyard available somewhere?
Sorry for all the questions, my sister is visiting Wales from the USA next month and I think she will visit the churchyard.
Thanks again -
Ann
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Ann, have sent a pm. The numbers you quoted are the register numbers not grave numbers. The grave number is P2 R8 and will be very easy to find.
Ray
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Thank you, Ray. I pm’ed you back. Your assistance is really appreciated!
Ann
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Hi,
Your information is correct that the Parish church in Pontlottyn has no Cemetery, however there was a graveyard in Pontlottyn, it is now the memorial gardens on Farm Road.
The Cemetery was attached to The Bethlehem Chaple which has now been demolished, some headstones are still in the gardens.
This was apparently referred to as "The old burial ground"
My Great-Grandmother is believed to be buried there and in trying to locate her resting place I found the same issues as you have.
Dan