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Title: New York census look up for 1890
Post by: Coxon on Tuesday 28 August 18 19:23 BST (UK)
Hello

Ann Penrose Dale was born in 1847 in Sand Hutton, Yorkshire, England. I was able to find her on the U.K censuses for 1851, 1861 and 1871.  In 1872 she married Joseph Mountain in Leeds, Yorkshire and then she seemed to disappear from U.K records. Then last night just by chance I found her on a grave web-site and from there the 1880 U.S.A census.
From this I could deduct she arrived in America around  1874-76. The census gave the following details:- Joseph Mountain, age 31 a coffee & Tea merchant; Ann age 30;Lydia, age 7; Charles age 4 and Alice age 9months.  Anna (D.1910) and Joseph (D.1903) are buried in Mount Hope Cemetery in Monroe, Rochester, New York   

As well as asking if anybody has anymore information on Ann Penrose Mountain I would also like to ask about John Penrose Dale, born 1850 in Sand Hutton, Yorkshire and appeared on the U.K 1851, 1861, 1871 and 1881 census before he disappeared and Frederick Penrose Dale born 1853 in York, Yorkshire and only appeared on the 1861 U.K census before disappearing.. Did they join Anne?

Thank you
Louise
Title: Re: New York census look up for 1890
Post by: RJ137 on Tuesday 28 August 18 20:03 BST (UK)
There is no 1890 census, but there is a 1892 NY state census.

They appear on that in Rochester.

1892 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQSY-VQF
Title: Re: New York census look up for 1890
Post by: RJ137 on Tuesday 28 August 18 20:32 BST (UK)
Democrat and Chronicle
Rochester, New York
Saturday, February 05, 1910 - Page 16

AGED WOMAN FOUND DEAD
_____________________

Lies Down in Bed and Insets
Tube Between Her Teeth

 
Mrs. Anna Mountain, 60 years old, was found dead in bed at her home, No. 394 1/2 Joseph avenue yesterday. Rubber gas tubing; was gripped between her teeth, indicating that the woman had deliberately taken her own life. The body was removed to the morgue, and Coroner T. A. Kllllp began an investigation. It is probable that he will give a certificate  of suicide while suffering from melancholia.

The strong odor of gas was first noticed by Edward Then, a clerk, who traced it to the flat occupied by Mrs. Mountain. He forced the door and saw the woman lying on the bed. He opened the windows and shut off the gas that was flowing through the tube. A physician was summoned, who said the woman had been dead for several hours. Mrs. Mountain is said to have been the mother of ten children, none of whom lived with her.
Title: Re: New York census look up for 1890
Post by: RJ137 on Tuesday 28 August 18 21:02 BST (UK)
Here is the family in 1900 census. The last name mis-transcibed. Census states they immigrated in 1874.

1900 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MSJ4-FBG

1905 NY State Census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKM7-FXR
Title: Re: New York census look up for 1890
Post by: Coxon on Wednesday 29 August 18 14:23 BST (UK)
Thank you for all that hard work and information. I have followed the links and opened an account with the web-site. I didn't know it existed and now I know it is there I will explore it.  Saying that I would never have found the mis-transcribed census records.  It was a horrible to read that she killed herself as that is what her father did in England (he hung himself) just before she disappeared from the U.K records and as I now know went to America.
Louise
Title: Re: New York census look up for 1890
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 29 August 18 16:11 BST (UK)
For information.................


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Anna Penrose Dale Mountain - June 1847 - 4 February 1910

Anna Penrose Dale married Joseph Mountain in Leeds, England. They moved to the United States in about 1874. Their children were Lydia, Charles, Alice, Emily, Helen, William and Raymond. Anna died Feb. 4, 1910 in Rochester, NY.


Mount Hope Cemetery Rochester, Monroe County, New York, USA
PLOT   Range 6, lot 72

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/74313176/anna-p.-mountain

Joseph Mountain - 13 April 1846 - 24 October 1903 (death notice below)

Joseph Mountain married Anna Penrose Dale in Leeds, England in July, 1872. They emigrated to the US and settled in Rochester, NY where he was a spice importer. Their children were Lydia, Charles, Emily, Helen, William and Raymond.

   
Mount Hope Cemetery Rochester, Monroe County, New York.
PLOT   Range 6, lot 72


https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/74311987/joseph-mountain



William Dale Mountain - 4 October 1885 - 1 April 1970

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JBPM-44D

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Mount Hope Cemetery Rochester, Monroe County, New York.
PLOT   Range 156BB Single Grave 48

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/74316012

plus children -

Lydia Annie Mountain was born 2 May 1874 in Burley, Leeds, York County, England to Joseph Mountain and his wife, Anna Penrose Dale. She was the first of their 10 known children. Joseph, his wife and daughter came to America when Lydia was a baby. They settled in Rochester, in the 5th Ward, where Joseph worked as an agent for importing coffee, tea, spices and eventually some produce. Lydia was quickly joined by three sisters and three brothers. She never married. In May of 1949, Lydia died of arteriosclerotic heart disease. She was buried in Mount Hope in a plot with her parents and sister Emily. She had just begun her 76th year at the time of her death.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/124326282/lydia-a.-mountain

Charles Mountain - 1877 - 1964  (obituary below)
married to Wilhelmina C. “Minnie” Burk Mountain - 1882 - 1963

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/74314383/charles-mountain

Alice Mountain Kirkpatrick  - 1879 - 1943 (obituary below)

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/124512007/alice-kirkpatrick

William D Kirkpatrick - 1877 - 1946 (obituary below)

Emily Mountain Pomeroy - 1882 - 1926 Alberta Canada
Appears on the Alberta Death Index - Edmonton So, Alberta, Canada - Registration Number:   524

Emily Mountain was born in Rochester, New York in September 1882 to Joseph Mountain and Anna Penrose Dale. She was their fourth child (of seven) and their third daughter. Before her marriage she worked for a time as a cotton spinner, but chose to become a nurse by profession. On 22 October 1908, Emily, then age 25, married William Norman Pomeroy, age 32, a steamfitter from Parry Sound The ceremony took place in Parry Sound, Ontario, Canada with Mr. and Mrs. George Drinkwater as witnesses. It is not known whether this couple had children (still researching). Emily died while in Alberta Province, Canada, on 22 May 1926, cause of death was given as "goiter". She was buried in Mount Hope Cemetery on 25 May in the Mountain Family Plot with her parents. She was 43 years, 8 months of age at the time of her death.

Marriage -    Powassan, Parry Sound, Ontario - 22 October 1908

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KSZF-BRN

1916 census Alberta Canada

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KM52-9BD

1921 census Strathcona Alberta

William Pomeroy 44
Emily Pomeroy   38

http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1921&op=img&id=e002864998

Raymond D Mountain - 1888 - 1948 (obituary below)

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/91793425/raymond-d-mountain

Married Mabel Ellen Striker - 22 March 1916 - Mildred Prarie Montana. Mabel passed away 30 June 1918 Miles City Custer Montana.

Mabel Mountain - 26 December 1892 - 30 June 1918 Ismay, Custer, Montana.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F37D-CQ3

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https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/127394735

Married Florence Fitzpatrick/Harvey- (Divorcee) 22 July 1919 - Miles City Custer Montana.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3Q5-FDZ

Marriage for Raymond D Mountain aged 42 years of Shelby Montana - to Alice Sorenson of Forsyth Montana - parents Joseph Mountain and Annie Dale. 25 March 1933.

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Alice Sorenson - 1904 - 1972 (obituary below)

Mountview Cemetery Billings, Yellowstone County, Montana.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/91793424

Sandra

Title: Re: New York census look up for 1890
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 29 August 18 16:22 BST (UK)
Democrat & Chronicle (Rochester) New York - Monday 26 October 1903 - page 9

Joseph Mountain death notice.  In this city Saturday October 24 1903 - Joseph Mountain aged 54 years and 4 months.  Funeral (today Monday) at 2.30 pm from his late residence No 593 St Paul Street.

Sandra



Title: Re: New York census look up for 1890
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 29 August 18 16:48 BST (UK)
The Billings Gazette - Billings Montana - 11 September 1972 - Page 6

Alice S Mountain 68 years of 106 Locust Street died Monday morning in her home. She had been in failing health. She had lived in billings since 1945. Mrs Mountain widow of Mr Raymond Dale Mountain was a past worthy matron of Forsyth Bethlehem Chapter of eastern Star and was a charter member of Moss Agate Chapter in Billings. She had been of Bath Zabbia Daughters of the Nile in 1954. She was born 17 February 1904 in Forsyth, a daughter of Mr and Mrs Thomas G Sorenson. She attended Forsyth schools and two years at University of Montana.

Her husband died 19 April 1948 in Billings They were married 25 March 1933 in Billings.  They lived in Shelby until 1942 when they monved to Coal Springs Ranch near Forsyth and later to Billings. Survivors include a son "Dr R D" of Rockville MD, a stepson Robert R Mountain of Miles City (now deceased - 1916 - 1991) and a step - daughter Mrs W O Murphy of Ukiah California, (now deased 1919 - 1999  Wildomar, Riverside, California)  a sister Mrs Lloyd Smith of San Jose, California and 9 Grandchildren.

Sandra
Title: Re: New York census look up for 1890
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 29 August 18 17:05 BST (UK)

Democrat and Chronicle - (Rochester New York) -  15 March 1964 - Page 46

Charles Mountain of 1225 Lyell Avenue on Friday March 13 1964.  He leaves 3 daughters Mrs Charles Heard of Poughkeepsie, Mrs James Feeley and Mrs Raymond Van Hove of Rochester.  One sister Mrs Helen Wagner , one brother William Mountain and two grand daughters.
Friends may call at L Schaumans sons inc, 609 Clinton Avenue, North on Saturday from 7 - 9 pm and Sunday 2 - 5 and 7 -9 pm - Service Monday at 1-30 pm - Interment Mont Hope Cemetery.

Sandra
Title: Re: New York census look up for 1890
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 29 August 18 17:17 BST (UK)
Democrat and Chronicle (Rochester New York) 31 May 1943 - Page 24.

Funeral Service held for Ex Rochesterian

Funeral service for Mrs Alice Mountain Kirkpatrick formerly of Rochester were conducted Saturday in Mount Hope cemetery. She died Thursday (May 27 1943) in her home at Buffalo. Surviving her husband William  Kirkpatrick and a son Raymond Kirkpatrick.

Sandra
Title: Re: New York census look up for 1890
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 29 August 18 17:34 BST (UK)

The husband of Alice could have remarried after her passing according to this obitaury.

Democrat and Chronicle - (Richester New York) - 17 July 1946 - Page 15

William Kirkpatrick Rites Conducted

Last rites for William Kirkpatrick 68, an active member of four Rochester Masonic Organizations until he moved to Buffalo in 1928 were conducted for him yesterday by fellow members of the Corinthian Temple Lodge , F & AM in Mount Hope Cenetery. Mr Kirkpatrick a native of Rochester died unexpectedly on Saturday (July 13 1946) in Buffalo. He joined the Masons in 1908 and in addition to the Corinthian Lodge also was a member of the Damascus Temple Germania Lodge of perfection and the Rochchester Consistory. Surviving are his widow Amelia Bauer Schultz Kirkpatrick , a son Raymond Kirkpatrick of Philadelphia, a daughter Bernice A Schultz and 2 grandchildren - Jean and Douglas Kirkpatrick. A funeral service was held in Mr Kirkpatrick's home before his bodywas brought to Rochester.

Sandra



Title: Re: New York census look up for 1890
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 29 August 18 17:52 BST (UK)

The Billings Gazette (Billings Montana) 22 Aoril 1948 - Page 2

Retired Banker Accorded Rites

Raymond Dale Mountain - aged 60 - retired Montana Banker was accorded funeral service in Smiths Chapel and Masonic Committal Rites at Mountview Cemetery Wednesday.
Mr Mountain who had operated banks in Conrad, Cut Bank, Forsyth and Shelby and had served as president of the Montana Bankers Association died at his home 106 Locust Street Monday after a long illness . He had lived in Billings since 1945. The funeral service was conducted by Rev A G Adams - Pastor of the First Presbyterian Church. "Jesus Saviour"  Pilot Be and Crossing the Bar were sung by John G Kiser accompanied by Mrs Ernest E Wild. Pallbearers were Ray Austin, O M Jorgenson, Harold Kingsley, Ray Latham, Clifford Sparks and R M Waters.
Ashlar Lodge No29 A F & A M conducted the rites at the Cemetery.
Surviving Mr Mountain are a widow, two sons, a daughter, two sisters, two brothers, three grandchildren.

Sandra
Title: Re: New York census look up for 1890
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 29 August 18 18:31 BST (UK)
This looks like one to investigate perhaps  ??? - UK Return Passenger List shows a John Dale aged 67 years - nurseryman - last permanent residence Oregon. New York to Liverpool - arriving 25 December 1917 - on the Adriatic -   Going to Patley Bridge Yorkshire.

Sandra
Title: Re: New York census look up for 1890
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 29 August 18 18:35 BST (UK)
Have you seen this one  ??? - John P Dale born 1851 - death registered 1922 Islington. London.
Volume 1b page 323 -

Deceased on line - John Penrose Dale - 17 February 1922  ???

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch?DetsView=Summary&src=ext&fileid=1225628

Sandra
Title: Re: New York census look up for 1890
Post by: Coxon on Wednesday 29 August 18 18:43 BST (UK)
Wow, I can't believe how much information you have found out about Ann and her family.  It is much appreciated as this part of the family were scattered all over after their father's suicide. Ann's step brothers ended up with McPherson's homes in Canada, just across the boarder from where Ann lived. I googled it last night!! I wonder if they ever met again-I shouldn't think so. Thank you once again to both of you.  I am going on holiday first thing in the morning so if you leave anything else (I don't think there can be any more!!)I won't be able to reply-no mobile phone for me!!. Louise

As I was typing this you managed to post two new replys-I can't believe your researching skills. No I didn't know about that John P Dale I lost him after the 1881 U.K census. Louise
Title: Re: New York census look up for 1890
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 29 August 18 19:35 BST (UK)
You're very welcome. Enjoy the holiday  ;)


Could this be John Dale - 1920 census Estes Baker, Oregon.

Alice Day   44 Born England. Imm 1908. Widowed.
Annie C Day   17 Born England. Imm 1903.
Harry M Day   8 Born Oreagon 1912.
John Dale   70 born England. Imm 1912. Labourer.

 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M484-TDV

Sandra
Title: Re: New York census look up for 1890
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 29 August 18 21:14 BST (UK)
Ethel nee Mountain - daughter of Charles and Wilhelmina.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/127394735

Tampa Bay Times (St Petersburg Florida) Page 74

Ethel M Heard aged 79 years - of St Petersburg died 7 th June - National Cremation Society St Petersburg.

Tampa Bay Times (St Petersburg Florida) Page 36

Ethel M heard aged 79 years of St Petersburg died Sunday (June 7th 1992) at Tyrone Medical Inn. Born In Rochester NY she came here in 1984 from Wappinger Falls NY where she was a secretary for the Family Service Associationfor 10 years. She was a member of United Church of Christ Madeira Beach Survivors include her husband Charles E and two nieces Roberta and Marylan Feeley of Rochester. National Cremation Society. St Petersburg.

Sandra

Title: Re: New York census look up for 1890
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 29 August 18 21:19 BST (UK)
Betty Mountain - daughter of Charles and Wilhelmina married Wallace J Feeley - 30 November 1946

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Betty M Feeley - 1919 - 1987

Mumford Rural Cemetery Mumford, Monroe County, New York.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/73773094

James W Feeley - 1918 - 2004

MM2 US NAVY - WORLD WAR II

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/73772879/james-w-feeley

Sandra
Title: Re: New York census look up for 1890
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 29 August 18 21:27 BST (UK)
Betty M Mountain/Feeley

Democrat and Chronicle (Rochester New York) 23 September 1987 - Page 26

On Monday September 14 1887 Betty M Feeley of Rochester - survived by her husband James and 2 daughters - "R" and "M" both of Rochester, granddaughter "A", sister and brother in law Ethel and Charles Heard St Petersburg Florida (now deceased) several nieces and nephews.
No prior calling hours. Interment at the convenience of the family at Mumford Rural Cemetery. Friends may attend a memmorial service Thursday September 24 at 7 pm. at Salem United Church of Christ 60 Bittner Street Those wishing to make contributions to ARC  Retarded Citizen Foundation C?O Al Sigl Centre 1000 Elmwood Ave in her memory. Reference Harold f Wood Funeral Home.

Sandra
Title: Re: New York census look up for 1890
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 29 August 18 21:34 BST (UK)


Democrat and Chronical - Rochester New York - 8 October 2004 - Page 14

James W Feeley - October 1 2002 predeceased by his wife Betty M Feeley, survived by his daughters R (and J) McKechney and "M" Feeley, grandaughter "A" Hemberger, sister Eleanor (Aunty Bea) Fulk, nieces and nephews. Jim was a Delco retiree and worked for many years at Brook - Lea Country Club.
Friends may call at James R Gray Funeral Home 1530 Buffalo Road - Sunday 3 - 5 pm
Interment Mumford Cemetery at the families convenience. Expressions of sympathy can be sent to Serenity House, 1278 Brace Road, Victor NY 14564

Sandra
Title: Re: New York census look up for 1890
Post by: Coxon on Saturday 15 September 18 16:36 BST (UK)
Thank you sandra for all your hard work. I have just spent the afternoon writing up all your information.My cousin, who had spent a long time looking for Anna Penrose Mountain, was very pleased you were able to find her. Louise
Title: Re: New York census look up for 1890 COMPLETED THANK YOU
Post by: Coxon on Saturday 15 September 18 16:42 BST (UK)
Completed Thank You.
Title: Re: New York census look up for 1890
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 15 September 18 19:55 BST (UK)


Delighted to be able to help.  Happy Hunting.

Regards
Sandra   ;)
Title: Re: New York census look up for 1890
Post by: Mart 'n' Al on Saturday 15 September 18 20:36 BST (UK)
I love the idea of a Dale and a Mountain getting together.  I notice things like that.

Martin

Title: Re: New York census look up for 1890
Post by: Coxon on Wednesday 19 September 18 11:39 BST (UK)
Hi Martin, I hadn't noticed until you mentioned it but I can now-a quirky sense of humour!
Louise
Title: Re: New York census look up for 1890
Post by: Mart 'n' Al on Wednesday 19 September 18 12:05 BST (UK)
It has been called that...

Martin
Title: Re: New York census look up for 1890
Post by: Mart 'n' Al on Thursday 04 October 18 19:23 BST (UK)
There is no 1890 census, but there is a 1892 NY state census.

1892 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQSY-VQF

Pedantic note, there was an 1890 census. I only found this out today while looking for it.

https://www.census.gov/history/www/genealogy/decennial_census_records/availability_of_1890_census.html

Availability of 1890 Census, and fire damage to 1890 census records.
A newspaper photograph captured the scene after a
devastating fire and pointed out the need for safe
storage of national records.
Photo courtesy of the National Archives.
Most of the census' population schedules were badly damaged by a fire

Martin