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Title: Patrick Jerome O'Connor ( ?1915? - ?1988? ) - ?Killarney?
Post by: [Ray] on Thursday 30 August 18 11:23 BST (UK)
Hi ,

Patrick Jerome O’Connor

Family story has birth in Killarney, born 23/August/1914 (from death reg), ("probable" death reg 1987 Gateshead)     

Marriage (FIRST) to =name/suname unknown= =date unknown= =place unknown=, see below.     
Union produced 2* children. Carole(e) & Sean/Shaun, =dates unknown=, =surnames unknown=, places unknown.      ( * As verbally told by him, mid-1960's, to 1946-born son )     


Possible Killarney marriage entry 1938 Q4 Killarney 5 158
Names on page are Dora Looney, Catherine Cullity, Nellie Hartnett, Bridgett Burke.

Nothing obvious found on UK 1939     

Marriage (SECOND) Ref 1945 Mar St Albans 3a 2624     
17/March/1945 St Albans (SS Alban & Stephen Church, St Albans)     
Ruby Ellen CLARKE, 29, Spinster, Fitter at Aircraft Factory, Father Samuel Clarke (Farm Labourer).     
Patrick Jerome O’Connor, 30, Widower, General Labourer, Father John O’Connor (Chef).     
Both of 5 Lower Paxton Road, St Albans. (AL1 1PG)     
Witnesses William G Clarke (brother) and J Allen     


Ruby, born 22/May/1915 Suffolk, ( mother Ethel Gertrude Mayston ), (died QMar 1987 Suffolk)     
Note. Children (1946, 1947, 1950) from this marriage are still alive, so info not required     
Ruby & Patrick split around 1950.     


Patrick made contact mid-1960’s to discuss a possible divorce.     
Proof of Divorce not found yet.     


Marriage (THIRD) 1976 Dec Gateshead 2 111     
Edna Barnes, born 19/August/1920 Gateshead (died 1987 Gateshead)     
(Edna had originally been Patrick’s landlady)     
No known children.     


There are many Patrick J O'Connor entries, in UK and Eire,
either with no other identifying detail, or no source image to go with the detail.

Reason for posting?     
In case someone spots anything or future person researching same.     

Can anyone spot his birth and or parents?     



Thanks
Ray
Title: Re: Patrick Jerome O'Connor ( ?1915? - ?!986? )
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 30 August 18 11:39 BST (UK)
First marriage to Catherine Cullity.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1938/08893/5216287.pdf
Title: Re: Patrick Jerome O'Connor ( ?1915? - ?!986? )
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 30 August 18 11:44 BST (UK)
A Patrick Connor born 23 Aug 1914 name given as Patrick Gerald, father John a waiter mother Hannah Sullivan.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1914/01391/1572180.pdf
Title: Re: Patrick Jerome O'Connor ( ?1915? - ?!986? )
Post by: annclare on Thursday 30 August 18 11:59 BST (UK)
Possible birth for Patrick Jerome aka Patrick Gerald https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1914/01391/1572180.pdf
Sorry about duplication.
Title: Re: Patrick Jerome O'Connor ( ?1915? - ?!986? )
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 30 August 18 12:12 BST (UK)
There is a John O'Connor chief in 1911 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kerry/Killarney_Urban/Twohill_s_Lane/288244/
Title: Re: Patrick Jerome O'Connor ( ?1915? - ?1988? ) - ?Killarney?
Post by: annclare on Thursday 30 August 18 17:04 BST (UK)
Probable marriage of JOhn O Connor (cook) and Johanna Sullivan in 1909.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1909/10039/5651802.pdf
Title: Re: Patrick Jerome O'Connor ( ?1915? - ?1988? ) - ?Killarney?
Post by: [Ray] on Thursday 30 August 18 20:01 BST (UK)


Post removed as totally unnecessary.     


Ray
Title: Re: Patrick Jerome O'Connor ( ?1915? - ?1988? ) - ?Killarney?
Post by: [Ray] on Thursday 30 August 18 20:07 BST (UK)


I do like the (Jo)hannah Sullivan link.     

Please let me know how I can get hold of copies?           
Apologies, worked it out . . . . . .

Thanks     

Ray
Title: Re: Patrick Jerome O'Connor ( ?1915? - ?1988? ) - ?Killarney?
Post by: [Ray] on Friday 31 August 18 09:03 BST (UK)
SinAnn & AnnClare,     


Thank you VERY much. That has restarted the tree build.
An interesting aside is that Patrick had a best pal named [O' ? ] Sullivan.     

Where's my notes . . . . . ?     


Thanks again.
Ray
Title: Re: Patrick Jerome O'Connor ( ?1915? - ?1988? ) - ?Killarney?
Post by: Susan Davison on Saturday 13 October 18 12:52 BST (UK)
Hi ,

Patrick Jerome O’Connor

Family story has birth in Killarney, born 23/August/1914 (from death reg), ("probable" death reg 1987 Gateshead)     

Marriage (FIRST) to =name/suname unknown= =date unknown= =place unknown=, see below.     
Union produced 2* children. Carole(e) & Sean/Shaun, =dates unknown=, =surnames unknown=, places unknown.      ( * As verbally told by him, mid-1960's, to 1946-born son )     


Possible Killarney marriage entry 1938 Q4 Killarney 5 158
Names on page are Dora Looney, Catherine Cullity, Nellie Hartnett, Bridgett Burke.

Nothing obvious found on UK 1939     

Marriage (SECOND) Ref 1945 Mar St Albans 3a 2624     
17/March/1945 St Albans (SS Alban & Stephen Church, St Albans)     
Ruby Ellen CLARKE, 29, Spinster, Fitter at Aircraft Factory, Father Samuel Clarke (Farm Labourer).     
Patrick Jerome O’Connor, 30, Widower, General Labourer, Father John O’Connor (Chef).     
Both of 5 Lower Paxton Road, St Albans. (AL1 1PG)     
Witnesses William G Clarke (brother) and J Allen     


Ruby, born 22/May/1915 Suffolk, ( mother Ethel Gertrude Mayston ), (died QMar 1987 Suffolk)     
Note. Children (1946, 1947, 1950) from this marriage are still alive, so info not required     
Ruby & Patrick split around 1950.     


Patrick made contact mid-1960’s to discuss a possible divorce.     
Proof of Divorce not found yet.     


Marriage (THIRD) 1976 Dec Gateshead 2 111     
Edna Barnes, born 19/August/1920 Gateshead (died 1987 Gateshead)     
(Edna had originally been Patrick’s landlady)     
No known children.     


There are many Patrick J O'Connor entries, in UK and Eire,
either with no other identifying detail, or no source image to go with the detail.

Reason for posting?     
In case someone spots anything or future person researching same.     

Can anyone spot his birth and or parents?     



Thanks
Ray
Title: Re: Patrick Jerome O'Connor ( ?1915? - ?1988? ) - ?Killarney?
Post by: Susan Davison on Saturday 13 October 18 12:56 BST (UK)
Patrick jerome oconnor is my maternal grandfather.  My mother was his first born called johanna not carole to Catherine cullity. I have his birth cert and marriage cert to Catherine and john and johananna marriage cert his parents .if you would like any information I will be more than happy to help x