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Title: Bangor death 2001
Post by: cupcake on Friday 31 August 18 12:53 BST (UK)
Looking for any information on Michael Randolf KIDMAN b.1930 Brentford, England m. Mary Mannix 1955 Wood Green, Middlesex

Micheal died in Sept. 2001 Bangor, Caernarvon - his wife 2012

1964 Michael was a Projector Repair Mechanic. Have no information of when he went to Wales or about his death.

Any information would be very much appreciated.

cupcake
Title: Re: Bangor death 2001
Post by: [Ray] on Friday 31 August 18 13:05 BST (UK)
Hi     


Here is the info re his death reg . . . . .
 Michael Randolph Kidman
 Death Age:     71
 Birth Date:     14 Feb 1930
 Registration Date:     Sep 2001
 Registration district:     Bangor
 Inferred County:     Caernarvonshire
 Register Number:     87A
 District and Subdistrict:     8411A


You can order his death cert with that info, and you'd then have it all.

Cheers     

Ray
Title: Re: Bangor death 2001
Post by: cupcake on Friday 31 August 18 14:13 BST (UK)
Hi     


Here is the info re his death reg . . . . .
 Michael Randolph Kidman
 Death Age:     71
 Birth Date:     14 Feb 1930
 Registration Date:     Sep 2001
 Registration district:     Bangor
 Inferred County:     Caernarvonshire
 Register Number:     87A
 District and Subdistrict:     8411A


You can order his death cert with that info, and you'd then have it all.

Cheers     

Ray

Thank you very much for that. Very much appreciated.

Will the death certificate give his burial place.

cupcake
Title: Re: Bangor death 2001
Post by: lizdb on Friday 31 August 18 14:14 BST (UK)
No it wont.

High chance he may have been cremated of course in 2001.

Title: Re: Bangor death 2001
Post by: cupcake on Friday 31 August 18 14:23 BST (UK)
No it wont.

High chance he may have been cremated of course in 2001.

That's a pity. Seems to be the problem with researches. Had thought an Obituary in the local papers might help.

Thank you

cupcake
Title: Re: Bangor death 2001
Post by: carol8353 on Friday 31 August 18 15:53 BST (UK)
As announcements in the newspapers are quite expensive here not many people choose to out an obit in the papers nowadays.Unless you were a person of some standing in your community.

Also the fact that many people move about quite a bit,there's often no one in the local area who knows them all that well.
Title: Re: Bangor death 2001
Post by: lizdb on Friday 31 August 18 16:36 BST (UK)
Once you know exactly where in the area he died, you could contact the nearest cemetery. Or the crematorium.


https://www.gwynedd.llyw.cymru/en/Residents/Births-marriages-deaths/Deaths-cemeteries-crematorium/Crematorium-and-cemeteries.aspx
Title: Re: Bangor death 2001
Post by: carol8353 on Friday 31 August 18 16:42 BST (UK)
Looking for any information on Michael Randolf KIDMAN b.1930 Brentford, England m. Mary Mannix 1955 Wood Green, Middlesex

Micheal died in Sept. 2001 Bangor, Caernarvon - his wife 2012

1964 Michael was a Projector Repair Mechanic. Have no information of when he went to Wales or about his death.

Any information would be very much appreciated.

cupcake

They still seem to be living in Luton in 1969(Electoral rolls)
Title: Re: Bangor death 2001
Post by: carol8353 on Friday 31 August 18 16:44 BST (UK)
Using the website https://www.iannounce.co.uk/  you will see there is an obit for Mary Kidman.
Title: Re: Bangor death 2001
Post by: cupcake on Friday 31 August 18 17:47 BST (UK)
Using the website https://www.iannounce.co.uk/  you will see there is an obit for Mary Kidman.

Thank you so much for that Carol.

It gives me quite a bit of information. It has KIDMAN - MARY (MAURA). and I am wondering if she was from Wales. It also tells me interment at Llanbeblig Cemetery. Would that be a burial? No mention of children.

cupcake
Title: Re: Bangor death 2001
Post by: cupcake on Friday 31 August 18 17:48 BST (UK)
As announcements in the newspapers are quite expensive here not many people choose to out an obit in the papers nowadays.Unless you were a person of some standing in your community.

Also the fact that many people move about quite a bit,there's often no one in the local area who knows them all that well.

I understand.
Title: Re: Bangor death 2001
Post by: cupcake on Friday 31 August 18 17:55 BST (UK)
Once you know exactly where in the area he died, you could contact the nearest cemetery. Or the crematorium.


https://www.gwynedd.llyw.cymru/en/Residents/Births-marriages-deaths/Deaths-cemeteries-crematorium/Crematorium-and-cemeteries.aspx

Carol8353 sent me an address and I now have Michael's wife Mary's interment at Llanbeblig Cemetery. So, there is a chance she is with Michael.
Title: Re: Bangor death 2001
Post by: cupcake on Friday 31 August 18 18:01 BST (UK)
Looking for any information on Michael Randolf KIDMAN b.1930 Brentford, England m. Mary Mannix 1955 Wood Green, Middlesex

Micheal died in Sept. 2001 Bangor, Caernarvon - his wife 2012

1964 Michael was a Projector Repair Mechanic. Have no information of when he went to Wales or about his death.

Any information would be very much appreciated.

cupcake

They still seem to be living in Luton in 1969(Electoral rolls)

So, they stayed a while after getting married in 1955, before going to Wales. They don't appear to have had any children.

Michael, was Seymour's brother and, was 16 when she died.
Title: Re: Bangor death 2001
Post by: cupcake on Wednesday 05 September 18 07:23 BST (UK)
Once you know exactly where in the area he died, you could contact the nearest cemetery. Or the crematorium.


https://www.gwynedd.llyw.cymru/en/Residents/Births-marriages-deaths/Deaths-cemeteries-crematorium/Crematorium-and-cemeteries.aspx

Carol8353 sent me an address and I now have Michael's wife Mary's interment at Llanbeblig Cemetery. So, there is a chance she is with Michael.

Have now received information, locating the grave for  Michael Randolph Kidman and Mary Kidman.  The grave number is 3659 in LLanbeblig cemetery in Caernarfon. So, Michael and Mary are together.

cupcake
Title: Re: Bangor death 2001
Post by: dawnsh on Wednesday 05 September 18 09:44 BST (UK)
Hi cupcake

Have you asked the cemetery office whether a headstone exists?
Title: Re: Bangor death 2001
Post by: cupcake on Wednesday 05 September 18 11:04 BST (UK)
Hi cupcake

Have you asked the cemetery office whether a headstone exists?

I am just about  to email the chap who has been in touch and ask if there is a headstone. He is kindly sending  me a plan of the cemetery.

cupcake
Title: Re: Bangor death 2001
Post by: cupcake on Wednesday 05 September 18 12:07 BST (UK)
Hi cupcake

Have you asked the cemetery office whether a headstone exists?

I am just about  to email the chap who has been in touch and ask if there is a headstone. He is kindly sending  me a plan of the cemetery.

cupcake

Had a prompt reply from form the chap  :).

He is going to ask the cemetery inspector to check the grave and take a photo of the memorial if there is one on the grave. 

cupcake
Title: Re: Bangor death 2001
Post by: dawnsh on Wednesday 05 September 18 14:06 BST (UK)
That's a very generous thing of them to do in these days when offices charge for doing the look-ups.
Title: Re: Bangor death 2001
Post by: cupcake on Wednesday 05 September 18 16:28 BST (UK)

Yes it is.
Title: Re: Bangor death 2001
Post by: cupcake on Friday 07 September 18 08:44 BST (UK)
I am pleased to say I have received photographs of Michael and his wife Mary's headstone.

In 1964 Michael Kidman was a Projector Repair Mechanic - Middlesex area. At the moment, I have no idea when they went to Wales but, I am curious to know what his occupation was.

cupcake

Title: Re: Bangor death 2001
Post by: cupcake on Sunday 09 September 18 09:40 BST (UK)

I think I may have exhausted my searches regarding when Michael R Kidman and his wife, went to Wales. 
From the 2002 Electrol Rolls  they lived at 53, Nant Y Glyn, Caernarvoin, Gwynedd, LL55 4AH.

At least I know they are together in Llanbeblig Cemetry.

cupcake

Title: Re: Bangor death 2001
Post by: dawnsh on Monday 10 September 18 18:17 BST (UK)
Hi cupcake

Without life events turning up in official records, it's going to be a tricky one to follow through.

Electoral registers are good upto a point but you need an address, so you have him at an address in 1964 which you work forward from until you know he moved out, and then you have the address at his time of death and work backwards from that to see when he moved in.

Hopefully that will lessen the gap.

Telephone directories are also online for various years, another option.
Title: Re: Bangor death 2001
Post by: cupcake on Tuesday 11 September 18 07:48 BST (UK)
Hi cupcake

Without life events turning up in official records, it's going to be a tricky one to follow through.

Electoral registers are good upto a point but you need an address, so you have him at an address in 1964 which you work forward from until you know he moved out, and then you have the address at his time of death and work backwards from that to see when he moved in.

Hopefully that will lessen the gap.

Telephone directories are also online for various years, another option.

Hi dawnsh,

It does appear to be a tricky one to follow through.

I will take on board everything you have said and hopefully this will lesson the gap.

Thank you regarding telephone directories - did wonder if there were any.

cupcake
Title: Re: Bangor death 2001
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 11 September 18 13:48 BST (UK)
There doesn't appear to be a probate entry for Michael but there is one for Mary.  She died on 1st March 2012 - St Davids Day   

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills
Title: Re: Bangor death 2001
Post by: cupcake on Wednesday 12 September 18 09:43 BST (UK)
There doesn't appear to be a probate entry for Michael but there is one for Mary.  She died on 1st March 2012 - St Davids Day   

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

Thank you for that.