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Title: Luther Stones b. Minningsby, Lincs, England 1856
Post by: dinny on Tuesday 04 September 18 10:04 BST (UK)
Does anyone know of this man?  Luther Stones.    Parents Robert Stones and Betsey nee Kitchen/ Stones.
Have found a note of his birth but nothing further.  Can anyone help please.  Thanks & Regards - Dinny.
Title: Re: Luther Stones b. Minningsby, Lincs, England 1856
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 04 September 18 11:39 BST (UK)
He's on the 1861 census with his family at the Globe Inn in Minningsby
Title: Re: Luther Stones b. Minningsby, Lincs, England 1856
Post by: Christine53 on Tuesday 04 September 18 12:05 BST (UK)
Is he perhaps Arthur Stones , baptised 25 April 1856 at New Bolingbroke , son of Robert Stones , innkeeper, and Betsey . Arthur married Lucy Charity in 1881 , where Robert Stones is now described as a butcher.

1871 census

Arthur Stones b 1857 New Bolingbroke , boarder , butcher's son & scholar

 RG10; Piece: 4719; Folio: 157; Page: 35

" Arthur " is not on the 1861 census with his family and " Luther " doesn't appear anywhere else.
Title: Re: Luther Stones b. Minningsby, Lincs, England 1856
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 04 September 18 12:24 BST (UK)
I think Christine has cracked it. Robert Stones is of course a butcher in the 1871 census too.

NB Arthur's wife is Kate (not Lucy) Charity per the marriage register (Boston parish church 19 May 1881)
Title: Re: Luther Stones b. Minningsby, Lincs, England 1856
Post by: Christine53 on Tuesday 04 September 18 12:40 BST (UK)
I think Christine has cracked it. Robert Stones is of course a butcher in the 1871 census too.

NB Arthur's wife is Kate (not Lucy) Charity per the marriage register (Boston parish church 19 May 1881)

Of course she is - don't know how  I dreamed that one up !

Christine  ;D
Title: Re: Luther Stones b. Minningsby, Lincs, England 1856
Post by: dinny on Tuesday 04 September 18 23:45 BST (UK)
Thanks to those who have replied to my query.   I will have a look at them all and probably come back with other info.   Thanks again.   Regards - Dinny
Title: Re: Luther Stones b. Minningsby, Lincs, England 1856
Post by: dinny on Tuesday 04 September 18 23:51 BST (UK)
Hi Christine - The surname Fagg appears on your list of names.   This surname is connected with my Stones of Luther's generation.   I had a great uncle, Mark Arthur Stones, known as Arthur.  He was the son of one of Luther's brothers and visited his English family on leave whilst serving in France during WW1.  Would you have anything further to say?    Thanks for your replies - regards Dinny.
Title: Re: Luther Stones b. Minningsby, Lincs, England 1856
Post by: dinny on Wednesday 05 September 18 03:22 BST (UK)
Hi Christine - Apologies to you.  I have just gone through my records and found the surname to be Vagg, not Fagg although some sources refer to the name as Fagg.    I am going with Vagg.  Sorry to mislead.  Regards - Dinny.
Title: Re: Luther Stones b. Minningsby, Lincs, England 1856
Post by: dinny on Thursday 06 September 18 04:03 BST (UK)
There were both a Luther Stones and an Arthur Stones in this family – father, Robert (butcher) -  mother Betsy nee Kitchen (or variants)  viz:

1856 – Luther Stones b. 1856 in Minningsby, Lincs England
1857 – Arthur Stones b. 1857 New Bolingbroke, Lincs England.

A total of 14 children in this family that I was able to find.   

At 58 years in 1914, Luther would have been too old for the conflict in 1914-18.
Unable to find him attached to earlier conflicts Britain may have been involved in – so, what happened to him?   Unable to find his death in the UK. 

Robert & Betsy had a child almost every year from 1851 onwards.  Two boys were registered in 1856 and 1857 respectively. 

I am a descendant of James b. 1855 who had as many children, names reflected in those of his Lincolnshire family, except the Christian name Luther.    A mystery.    Regards – Dinny.   
Title: Re: Luther Stones b. Minningsby, Lincs, England 1856
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 06 September 18 12:56 BST (UK)
Hi Dinny,

ARTHUR Stones was Bapt 29 Apr 1856, St Peter, New Bolingbroke
(FreeREG)
Nothing for a Luther.

Checking the GRO index I can find neither birth reg you mention with Mothers mn as Kitchen/Kitching?

Your James;
STONES, JAMES, Mothers mn KITCHEN
GRO Reference: 1854  S Quarter in SPILSBY  Volume 07A  Page 477
Title: Re: Luther Stones b. Minningsby, Lincs, England 1856
Post by: DCB on Thursday 06 September 18 13:23 BST (UK)
Looking at the image of the baptism for Arthur, at a quick glance, it could be mistaken for Luther.

 I don't know how the information was given to the enumerator for the 1861 census but, if a written note, Luther may be a transcription error for Arthur. As Christine53 states, Luther only appears once in any record, which is the one when Arthur is missing.

David