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Looking for info on Alfred Charles Ladell and Naomi Lambe or Lambert.
Alfred was born in Norfolk England in 1830.
Naomi was born around 1837, not sure where she was born.
not sure if they married in Canada
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Looks like the family is in Warwick, Lambton Ontario in 1881
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e329/e008206863.jpg
Alfred C 55, born England
Naomi 44 , born Ontario
Louise J 15, born Ontario
Matilda A 14, born Ontario
Alfred G 12, born Ontario
William J 11, born Ontario
Harriet M 8, born Ontario
RK
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No answers yet, just a couple of questions:
Have you found the couple on censuses - and do they give a clue as to Naomi's birthplace?
When and where was the eldest known child born?
If we can narrow down the search to a reasonable time period, we would have a better chance of finding info on a marriage (or if the couple travelled together on the same ship).
Philip
And just as I was about to hit "post" RunKitty's reply was posted
I assume O in the "Country or Province" column is Ontario.
Eldest child with the family is 15 - suggesting a marriage earlier than 1866 (probably in Ontario?)
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1891 census in Enniskillen, Lambton East, Ontario
http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1891&op=img&id=30953_148149-00386
Alfred and Naomi with sons Alfred G and William J.
Naomi gives her birth place as Ontario
RK
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A quick look on FindMyPest for travel/migration popped up an Alfred C LEDELL born 1832 England on the 1861 Canada census. It could be worth a check to see if he was with family members just in case it's not our man, but if correct, this could narrow down the years between arrival and marriage.
Philip
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1901 census, Naomi is in Lambton West, Wyoming Village with her brother Levi Lambert. He is a widower and she is a widow.
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z002/jpg/z000076022.jpg
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z002/jpg/z000076023.jpg
Naomi says that her birthday is Nov 16 1836 in Ontario (rural).
Good find Philip. Could be him.
RK
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Following up...looking for Ledell on the 1861 census
There is an Alfred C Ledell, 29, born in England, on the 1861 census in Middlesex, Ontario. There is a Ledell family at the top of the page too.
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/jpg/4108145_00129.jpg
RK
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1871 - in Middlesex, Ontario.
Charles Alfred Ledell 41, born England. Naomi 33, born Ontario. Children L Jane 5, Matilda Ann 4, Alfred George 3, William John 1 - all born in Ontario. There is also an Esther McHutcheon 7 and Martha Ledell 72, born England and Martha Ann Ledell 11, born Ontario
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1871/jpg/4396604_00597.jpg
RK
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I would guess marriage could be in Middlesex Ontario in the early 1860s
RK
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RunKitty - I'm going to have to learn to type faster - that's the second time you've beaten me to it!
So, if the 1861 Alfred C LEDELL is the right man, (living in Ontario) and Naomi (of Ontario and Alfred's eldest known child was born c1866 in Ontario then the marriage (assuming there was one) would have been between 1861 and 1866. The censuses have Alfred as Methodist or Baptist - I don't know if that has any relevance.
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:) :) :)
If brother Levi Lambert (according to the 1901 census) was born about 1846 in Ontario.... I wonder if this could be him with his parents in 1851, Westminster, Middlesex, Ontario? It is a possibility...
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e095/e002359829.jpg
There is no Naomi Lambert with this family, but if this is her family... she could have been with other relatives in 1851??? Just guessing :)
RK
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Following up...looking for Ledell on the 1861 census
There is an Alfred C Ledell, 29, born in England, on the 1861 census in Middlesex, Ontario. There is a Ledell family at the top of the page too.
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/jpg/4108145_00129.jpg
RK
I had a quick look for this family (Mary A 36, Margret 14 - the other children are too young) on the 1851 census in Norfolk (Margaret 3 living with grandmother Ann Thomas in Aylsham - no mother/father at that address). Not conclusive - would need more research.
However, I did find the family of Alfred C LADELL in Erpingham (Martha 53, widow, farmer; Frederick 23 farmer's son, Alfred C 20, farmer's son, Walter E 15, farmer's son).
Aylsham is less than four miles from Erpingham and there were less than 300 LADELLs of all ages on the 1851 census in Norfolk, so I am fairly sure there is a link.
Link to related thread
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=799782.0;topicseen
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Looks like the family is in Warwick, Lambton Ontario in 1881
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e329/e008206863.jpg
Alfred C 55, born England
Naomi 44 , born Ontario
Louise J 15, born Ontario
Matilda A 14, born Ontario
Alfred G 12, born Ontario
William J 11, born Ontario
Harriet M 8, born Ontario
RK
This is the Family, all the names look very familiar!! Thank you!
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1891 census in Enniskillen, Lambton East, Ontario
http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1891&op=img&id=30953_148149-00386
Alfred and Naomi with sons Alfred G and William J.
Naomi gives her birth place as Ontario
RK
I see from the 1891 census that Alfred's parents are born in England and for Naomi her father was born in England and mother in Ontario.
Thanks
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I see from the 1891 census that Alfred's parents are born in England and for Naomi her father was born in England and mother in Ontario.
Thanks
I have posted details of Alfred C from the 1841 and 1851 censuses, together with a possible parents' marriage, on your thread on the Norfolk board.
All the best
Philip
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Thank you everyone for all this help and information. Lots to sort thru.
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Naomi Lambert (1836–) married Alfred Charles Ladell in 1862. In the 1870s they lived in Warwick Twp., and eventually settled in Enniskillen Twp. Their daughter Matilda married Fred Cook of Warwick. Fred and Matilda’s son L. S. Cook owned and operated the Warwick General Store for a number of years.
https://www.lambtonmuseums.ca/warwick_families/lambert/
Sandra
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Alfred Charles Lambert 1830 - 1893
Hillsdale Cemetery (Section: V), Lambton County, Ontario
http://geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/715041
Naomi Lambert 1837 - 1928
Hillsdale Cemetery (Section: V), Lambton County, Ontario.
http://geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/715042
Sandra