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Title: Looking for marriage of Thomas Wilson to Priscilla - California
Post by: Spurr on Thursday 06 September 18 01:04 BST (UK)
Thomas Wilson born England 1888 was shown as single (divorced) on 1930 census  West 6th. Los Angeles California. On 1940 Census he is living at 710 North Croft Ave, Los Angeles with wife Priscilla
age 43 born Vermont.
Can anyone help me find their marriage?

Thanks
Betty Wilson New Zealand
Title: Re: Looking for marriage of Thomas Wilson to Priscilla - California
Post by: crisane on Thursday 06 September 18 05:09 BST (UK)
How do you know he was divorced? The 1930 census just says he was single.
Title: Re: Looking for marriage of Thomas Wilson to Priscilla - California
Post by: Spurr on Thursday 06 September 18 05:44 BST (UK)
Sorry if I confused you, as you state the 1930 Census only states he was single.  I have with help traced him from when he left England arrived in Canada, married and divorced there and then moved to the US, so it is his 2nd marriage I would like to find.
Title: Re: Looking for marriage of Thomas Wilson to Priscilla - California
Post by: Lisa in California on Thursday 06 September 18 11:13 BST (UK)
Is it possible that they hadn't yet married (by the 1940 census)? 

While it does state that Priscilla was his wife and she is marked as married, the spot indicating Thomas' marital status looks like it was marked and then erased.  Looking at neighbouring pages, Thomas is the only one to have a blank spot under the marital status.
Title: Re: Looking for marriage of Thomas Wilson to Priscilla - California
Post by: Lisa in California on Thursday 06 September 18 11:23 BST (UK)
1940 Voter Registration
Mrs. Priscilla Wilson, 710 N Croft av, housewife

So, she was recorded on the voter list as being married.
Title: Re: Looking for marriage of Thomas Wilson to Priscilla - California
Post by: Spurr on Thursday 06 September 18 20:33 BST (UK)
Lisa in California,

Thank you for your replies.  Are there any online indexes for BMD for California or an address where I could write for information for this time period?
Title: Re: Looking for marriage of Thomas Wilson to Priscilla - California
Post by: crisane on Thursday 06 September 18 21:00 BST (UK)
This is thee familysearch.org guide to finding marriage records in California. I haven't tried it.
https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/How_to_Find_California_Marriage_Records
Title: Re: Looking for marriage of Thomas Wilson to Priscilla - California
Post by: Spurr on Thursday 06 September 18 21:12 BST (UK)
This is thee familysearch.org guide to finding marriage records in California. I haven't tried it.
https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/How_to_Find_California_Marriage_Records

Thanks Crisane I will try that.
Title: Re: Looking for marriage of Thomas Wilson to Priscilla - California
Post by: jorose on Thursday 06 September 18 22:07 BST (UK)
In 1930, there is only one Priscilla of the right age and birth state living in California:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XCFN-B35

This woman's husband, Keith E. Packman, died in 1938
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGYV-NKRV
Title: Re: Looking for marriage of Thomas Wilson to Priscilla - California
Post by: Spurr on Thursday 06 September 18 22:35 BST (UK)
In 1930, there is only one Priscilla of the right age and birth state living in California:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XCFN-B35

This woman's husband, Keith E. Packman, died in 1938
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGYV-NKRV


JOROSE, Thank you for these references they are very interesting and give me another name to consider when looking for the marriage.  I see that on the death record Keith Packman was described as divorced so the marriage didn't last very long according to ages of marriage on the census.

Again many thanks.

Betty

Title: Re: Looking for marriage of Thomas Wilson to Priscilla - California
Post by: oldohiohome on Thursday 06 September 18 22:40 BST (UK)
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This woman's husband, Keith E. Packman, died in 1938
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGYV-NKRV
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Keith Packman was divorced when he died,according to the image, so Priscilla may have married Thomas Wilson before 1938.

And according to the Packman's 1930 information, Keith and Priscilla had only been married 2 years at the time.
Title: Re: Looking for marriage of Thomas Wilson to Priscilla - California
Post by: Spurr on Thursday 06 September 18 23:01 BST (UK)
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This woman's husband, Keith E. Packman, died in 1938
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGYV-NKRV

Keith Packman was divorced when he died,according to the image, so Priscilla may have married Thomas Wilson before 1938.

And according to the Packman's 1930 information, Keith and Priscilla had only been married 2 years at the time.
[/quote]

Thank you for confirming my findings on checking these records.  Whose knows how many times she had been married and divorced.  Thomas Wilson died in 1958 and I have no record of whether he was married or divorced then.
Title: Re: Looking for marriage of Thomas Wilson to Priscilla - California
Post by: RJ137 on Thursday 06 September 18 23:05 BST (UK)
Keith & Priscilla were married in Oct. 1927.


Press-Courier
Oxnard, California
Monday, October 10, 1927 - Page 1

(see attached)

==========================

Priscilla Courtemanche.

1901 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KHGD-N34

1911 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV9P-H5CH

Crossing 1918: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK31-W787

FS Tree: https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LH8L-YYX

Death? location & DOB match.

CADI: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VPD1-29G

SSDI: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J11Z-GZC
Title: Re: Looking for marriage of Thomas Wilson to Priscilla - California
Post by: RJ137 on Thursday 06 September 18 23:19 BST (UK)
Thomas Wilson obit 1958.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/23504385/thomas_wilson_obit/
Title: Re: Looking for marriage of Thomas Wilson to Priscilla - California
Post by: Spurr on Friday 07 September 18 00:21 BST (UK)
RJ137

Thank you for finding out the maiden surname of Priscilla and also for the obit for Thomas, there was no mention of a wife or family in this obit, although he did have a daughter by his first wife.  The
FS Tree: https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LH8L-YYX you gave me for Priscilla also raises a question as it shows she had a daughter Ruth born 1921 although this daughter is not living with her mother  on the 1930 census.

Title: Re: Looking for marriage of Thomas Wilson to Priscilla - California
Post by: Lisa in California on Saturday 08 September 18 20:10 BST (UK)
I've not fully read the information provided during the past couple of days.  But, I believe I did see the "other" Priscilla in a family tree (on Anc*try).  She was "married" (?) to someone else during the 1930 census.  I will find the information again.  Apologies for not mentioning her before now.
Title: Re: Looking for marriage of Thomas Wilson to Priscilla - California
Post by: Spurr on Saturday 08 September 18 20:19 BST (UK)
Many thanks  Lisa I would appreciate that.

Betty
Title: Re: Looking for marriage of Thomas Wilson to Priscilla - California
Post by: Lisa in California on Saturday 08 September 18 20:29 BST (UK)
I believe the Priscilla whom I found a few days ago (and who was possibly married to Mr. Packman) was
1940 Los Angeles Census
"Esdres Marcott" age 50, born Vermont and Pricilla M., age 42, born Vermont

California Death Index
Pricilla Mary Marcotte
Born: 1892, Vermont
Died:  1952, Los Angeles

This lady is in a tree on Anc*try.  They show her as being married first to Keith Packman and then to Esdras L Marcotte.  Perhaps they are mistaken with the Packman marriage?

I've been ill since Thursday (vertigo) and cannot add up all the facts at this time.   :-\ Perhaps there were three Priscilla's with similar backgrounds?

Update:  Two Priscillas, not three.  The Marcotte Pricilla and your Priscilla.

Title: Re: Looking for marriage of Thomas Wilson to Priscilla - California
Post by: RJ137 on Saturday 08 September 18 22:19 BST (UK)
Esdras & Marie Priscilla were married in 1931. Record indicates both are single and it's the 1st marriage for both.

See both images 1463 & 1464.

Marriage: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K8J7-ZRC
Title: Re: Looking for marriage of Thomas Wilson to Priscilla - California
Post by: Spurr on Saturday 08 September 18 22:46 BST (UK)
I believe the Priscilla whom I found a few days ago (and who was possibly married to Mr. Packman) was
1940 Los Angeles Census
"Esdres Marcott" age 50, born Vermont and Pricilla M., age 42, born Vermont

California Death Index
Pricilla Mary Marcotte
Born: 1892, Vermont
Died:  1952, Los Angeles

This lady is in a tree on Anc*try.  They show her as being married first to Keith Packman and then to Esdras L Marcotte.  Perhaps they are mistaken with the Packman marriage?

I've been ill since Thursday (vertigo) and cannot add up all the facts at this time.   :-\ Perhaps there were three Priscilla's with similar backgrounds?

Update:  Two Priscillas, not three.  The Marcotte Pricilla and your Priscilla.

Lisa, hope you feel better soon.

There seems to be quite a bit of confusion, from the information I have received there was A Priscilla
Courtemache who married a Keith Packman and a Priscilla Desautels who married an Esdras Marcotte, as I have been given a death for Priscilla Marcotte I am favouring Priscilla Courtemache.
There is tree on Ancestry for her showing 4 marriages including a Thomas Wilson but his information is incorrect, no source shown.
Unless there is some way of checking an index of marriages for California I may have to wait until more information comes online.

Many thanks appreciate all your help.

Betty
Title: Re: Looking for marriage of Thomas Wilson to Priscilla - California
Post by: Spurr on Saturday 08 September 18 22:51 BST (UK)
Esdras & Marie Priscilla were married in 1931. Record indicates both are single and it's the 1st marriage for both.

See both images 1463 & 1464.

Marriage: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K8J7-ZRC

Thanks RJ137 however I don't think this is my Priscilla as I have been given a death by Lisa in California for her in 1952
California Death Index
Pricilla Mary Marcotte
Born: 1892, Vermont
Died:  1952, Los Angeles

Regards Betty