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Title: Henry Kennett OSBORN (b: 1853, Cork) & Marie A. E. COX (b: 1859, Bath)
Post by: JohnG_Swansea on Saturday 08 September 18 11:20 BST (UK)

Hello Readers,

Henry Kennett OSBORN was born 1853, in Cork, Ireland, during 1853.

Marie Alberta Eugene OSBORN (nee Cox) was the third child of John Cox COX (b: 1823, Bristol) & Anne Clatworthy (b: 1820, Rowberrow). 

Marie and Henry were married at St. Thomas a Becket Church, Bath on 2 June 1879,

They were blessed with ten children:

Newport, South Wales:
Elizabeth Annie OSBORN (b: 03/1880) & John Victor OSBORN (b: 12/1881)

Estcourt, Natal: where Henry, the father, is described as ‘Post Master’
Felix Algernon OSBORN (b: 10/1883), Benjamin Earnest OSBORN (b: 06/1885),
Charles Kenley OSBORN (b: 08/1887 & Arthur Willian OSBORN (b: 06/1889)

Ladysmith, Natal: where Henry, the father, is again described as ‘Post Master’
Gladys Ellen OSBORN (b: 09/1892), Henry Alexander OSBORN (b: 08/1893),
Dorothy Mary OSBORN (b: 05/1895) & Frank Edward OSBORN (b: 09/1898)

My wife is a direct descendant of the above John Cox COX & Anne Clatworthy, via their first child: Flora Augusta COX (b: 1850, Wrington, Somerset) who married Benjamin David POPE (b: 1853, Strethham, Cambridgeshire) at St. Thomas a Becket, Bath.  Flora & Benjamin spent the years 1884 -1891 in Natal whilst Benjamin worked as a contractor on the ‘new build’ Natal Government Railway from Ladysmith through Howick, Estcourt and further inland.  We hold copies of baptism records for Emily Laura POPE (b: 11/1886, Howick) and Edward Benjamin POPE (b: 04/1890, Estcourt) where Edwards’ baptism was witnessed and signed off, by Henry & Marie Osborn (above).

Ruth has in her possession a substantial hand written Family Tree prepared by one of her late mothers’ several correspondents in Natal, each of them being descendants of the Osborn family members’ listed above, whom it would be improper to mention by name as we know not who is still alive and who might be deceased.  The letters are dated in the 1970’s & 80’s.  The hand written tree includes branches/ generations and names into the 1980’s.  Having said that the generation we can comfortably mention includes 6 Osborn families, 1 Broughton family, 1 Middleton family, plus two more Osborn’s for whom we cannot see any foot print beyond their record of birth.

We here in Swansea already have Baptism Records (in lieu of birth certificates) for all ten of the above individuals, along with quite a number of copy Wedding Certificates, and other documents relating to the wider Osborn family, we also have a number of open ended lines which need tidying up.

It is also clear that all the other three Cox sisters visited Maria Alberta over the years, with various Cox names appearing on a number of the previously mentioned baptism records.

Should anyone reading this post recognise any of the above names, we here in Swansea would very much like to ‘swap’ relevant family news, information and updates with you. 

JohnG_Swansea.

Title: Re: Henry Kennett OSBORN (b: 1853, Cork) & Marie A. E. COX (b: 1859, Bath)
Post by: Pat Hase on Saturday 20 July 19 21:12 BST (UK)

We had someone enquiring about the baptism of John Cox Cox in 1823 this afternoon (Free Help Sessions in Weston-super-Mare Library)  Do you have his baptism?  We had the baptisms of several siblings and the marriage of his possible parents John COX solicitor and Elizabeth SHORT but wondered if he was born before they were married and christened as John Cox SHORT.  Thanks.

Title: Re: Henry Kennett OSBORN (b: 1853, Cork) & Marie A. E. COX (b: 1859, Bath)
Post by: JohnG_Swansea on Sunday 21 July 19 19:24 BST (UK)

PHH, I thank you for your message above.

Considerable time has been spent, over the years, checking and re-checking, to see if the names John Cox Cox and/or John Cox Short have been added to the Ancestry database, similar exercises are conducted periodically on FamilySearch, and whilst a John Cox Short is on record as being born in the Quaker community of Phillip and Jacob, Gloucestershire in October 1778, it has been discounted in so far as 'our' JCC of 03/1823 is concerned.  Unfortunately, I  have found nothing credible for the baptism of John Cox COX, born 18 March 1823, Lawrence Hill, Bristol.

We have recently received an informal hint that the records of the former St. John the Baptist, Bedminster, Bristol, never re-built following severe damage during WWII (location: 51.440247, -2.598587), are due to be released in 'the Autumn', although the year of release was not included in the hint!   It will be interesting to see what other records from the wider Bristol area might be released at the same time.

Once again, many thanks for your interest in the original post, on behalf of your client at W-s-M.

JohnG_Swansea.

Title: Re: Henry Kennett OSBORN (b: 1853, Cork) & Marie A. E. COX (b: 1859, Bath)
Post by: Pat Hase on Sunday 21 July 19 21:42 BST (UK)

Many thanks for your reply.  It was quite a comfort to read that you hadn't found any baptism for J C C either (except for the Quaker one much earlier which must be a coincidence).  I have already looked at the transcriptions of many of the Bristol parishes made by the Bristol & Avon FHS but with no success including St John the Baptist, Bedminster- but if the images are soon to appear that would be a bonus.  If he was born in Lawrence Hill that would probably have been in the Parish of Ss Philip & Jacob in 1823.  Holy Trinity-St Philips which would have been nearer wasn't built until 1829.
I'm really grateful for your thought on this missing baptism.