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Title: Time in Caernarvon
Post by: cupcake on Monday 10 September 18 09:51 BST (UK)

 Have discovered tracing people in more recent years isn't easy, but thought I would give it a mention.
 
Michael Randolf KIDMAN died 2001 (71 yrs) and lived with his wife Mary at 53 Nant Y Glyn, Caernarvon, Gwynedd, LL55 4AH. His wife Mary died 2012 aged (79 yrs) and are buried together at Llanbeblig Cemetery.

I am trying to find out when Michael and Mary went to Wales - they were in Luton, England 1969.

From Mary's tribute she had two sisters Breda and Nora (someone might have known them)

cupcake

Title: Re: Time in Caernarvon
Post by: BumbleB on Monday 10 September 18 09:58 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Time in Caernarvon
Post by: cupcake on Monday 10 September 18 10:03 BST (UK)
Don't know how this has happened. Sorry.
Title: Re: Time in Caernarvon
Post by: louisa maud on Monday 10 September 18 10:04 BST (UK)
Was her  maiden name was Mannix ?

Who was Mary's parents?

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Time in Caernarvon
Post by: cupcake on Monday 10 September 18 10:11 BST (UK)
Was her  maiden name was Mannix ?

Who was Mary's parents?

Louisa Maud

Yes it was Mannix. I am afraid at the moment, I don't know anymore about Mary.

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Title: Re: Time in Caernarvon
Post by: louisa maud on Monday 10 September 18 10:15 BST (UK)
Any idea of her date of birth, can't find it so far in deaths

LM
Title: Re: Time in Caernarvon
Post by: cupcake on Monday 10 September 18 12:20 BST (UK)
Any idea of her date of birth, can't find it so far in deaths

LM

Don't have her date of birth - but she died 2012 aged 79 years - so she was born 1933

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Title: Re: Time in Caernarvon
Post by: cupcake on Monday 10 September 18 12:32 BST (UK)
 Have just looked on Family Search and there are two Mary MANNIX born 1933 in Ireland.

Mary Mannix  Jul - Sept 1933  Tralee, Ireland
Mary Mannix  Apr - Jun 1933   Granard, Ireland

No parents named.

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Title: Re: Time in Caernarvon
Post by: cupcake on Monday 10 September 18 12:49 BST (UK)
Her mother's maiden name could have been KIRWAN - Granard, Ireland

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Title: Re: Time in Caernarvon
Post by: nestagj on Monday 10 September 18 15:04 BST (UK)
Michael's dob 14/02/1930 he and his family are in the 1939.  Spelt Randolph.....

Other entries on a**y are birth, death and 2 member pictures but private.

No sign of a marriage. yet.


Nesta
Title: Re: Time in Caernarvon
Post by: Glynm on Monday 10 September 18 15:38 BST (UK)
Hi
Further to our discussion earlier today, to avoid confusion, I would point out that the road Nant y Glyn is in the village of Llanrug and not in Caernarfon. It might be worth contacting the Hafan Elan Community Centre, Hafan Elan Estate, Llanrug, LL55 4BU. I note they hold a Monday Lunch Club there and some of the members might have known Mary. See http://www.rootschat.com/links/01moo/

Glyn
Title: Re: Time in Caernarvon
Post by: cupcake on Tuesday 11 September 18 07:35 BST (UK)
Michael's dob 14/02/1930 he and his family are in the 1939.  Spelt Randolph.....

Other entries on a**y are birth, death and 2 member pictures but private.

No sign of a marriage. yet.


Nesta

Thank you Nesta.  That's a pity the pictures are private. I got their marriage entry from FamilySearch. Jan-Feb-March 1955  Wood Green, Middlesex.

I shall look at a***y the next time I am at the library.

cupcake
Title: Re: Time in Caernarvon
Post by: cupcake on Tuesday 11 September 18 07:40 BST (UK)
Hi
Further to our discussion earlier today, to avoid confusion, I would point out that the road Nant y Glyn is in the village of Llanrug and not in Caernarfon. It might be worth contacting the Hafan Elan Community Centre, Hafan Elan Estate, Llanrug, LL55 4BU. I note they hold a Monday Lunch Club there and some of the members might have known Mary. See http://www.rootschat.com/links/01moo/

Glyn

Many thanks for that information. Tried the link you gave but, says the page isn't working.

cupcake

Title: Re: Time in Caernarvon
Post by: cupcake on Tuesday 11 September 18 07:55 BST (UK)
Hi
Further to our discussion earlier today, to avoid confusion, I would point out that the road Nant y Glyn is in the village of Llanrug and not in Caernarfon. It might be worth contacting the Hafan Elan Community Centre, Hafan Elan Estate, Llanrug, LL55 4BU. I note they hold a Monday Lunch Club there and some of the members might have known Mary. See http://www.rootschat.com/links/01moo/

Glyn

Many thanks for that information. Tried the link you gave but, says the page isn't working.

cupcake

I will write to the address given.

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Title: Re: Time in Caernarvon
Post by: Glynm on Tuesday 11 September 18 08:46 BST (UK)
Try this link without the Rootschat shrink www.dewis.wales/ResourceDirectory/ViewResource.aspx?id=6624
Hafan Elan Estate is a warden aided complex of bungalows. By coincidence my Aunt moved there in her later years to look after her older sister.


Glyn
Title: Re: Time in Caernarvon
Post by: cupcake on Tuesday 11 September 18 15:12 BST (UK)
Try this link without the Rootschat shrink www.dewis.wales/ResourceDirectory/ViewResource.aspx?id=6624
Hafan Elan Estate is a warden aided complex of bungalows. By coincidence my Aunt moved there in her later years to look after her older sister.


Glyn

Managed to open the address this time.

Do you think Michael and Mary may have lived in a warden aided complex of bungalows. Michael died in 2001 and Mary (Maura on her tribute) in 2012.

I am wondering why they went to Wales.

cupcake
Title: Re: Time in Caernarvon
Post by: louisa maud on Tuesday 11 September 18 15:38 BST (UK)
She might well have been from Welsh decent

Was there an age or date of birth?
 
Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Time in Caernarvon
Post by: louisa maud on Tuesday 11 September 18 15:53 BST (UK)
This might have nothing to do with this family, but I searched for MAURA MANNIX
only 1 came up, married 1967 Hampstead to Joseph E Dowling
2 children born in Paddington
Jason Edward Dowling 1960's and Joanna Mary Dowling 1970's

Other than that I cannot find anything else about Maura Mannix

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Time in Caernarvon
Post by: louisa maud on Tuesday 11 September 18 16:16 BST (UK)
For quite a few years
Dorothy Jane Kidman
Michael R Kidman
Thomas Randolph Kidman , all lived together for some years
1955 Crown Road all 3 as above plus Mary Mannix
1958 all 3 plus Mary Kidman

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Time in Caernarvon
Post by: louisa maud on Tuesday 11 September 18 16:25 BST (UK)
There is probate shown as Thomas Randolph Kidman dying 06/01/1964, probate to Michael Randolph Kidman, occ. project repair mechanic, so this might be a clue to his occupation throughout the years , there is an amount  of money shown

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Time in Caernarvon
Post by: Glynm on Tuesday 11 September 18 20:03 BST (UK)
You asked whether Michael and Mary lived in a warden aided complex. Certainly  not when Michael died since Nant Y Glyn looks like a 1960's/70's private estate. I mentioned the Lunch Club since I thought Mary, being a widow in her eighties, might have used it for the company and also it was only a few minutes walk away.

Glyn
Title: Re: Time in Caernarvon
Post by: cupcake on Wednesday 12 September 18 06:11 BST (UK)
You asked whether Michael and Mary lived in a warden aided complex. Certainly  not when Michael died since Nant Y Glyn looks like a 1960's/70's private estate. I mentioned the Lunch Club since I thought Mary, being a widow in her eighties, might have used it for the company and also it was only a few minutes walk away.

Glyn

Thank you for for explaining that. It certainly makes sense that Mary may have used the company after Michael's death.

cupcake
Title: Re: Time in Caernarvon
Post by: cupcake on Wednesday 12 September 18 06:27 BST (UK)
For quite a few years
Dorothy Jane Kidman
Michael R Kidman
Thomas Randolph Kidman , all lived together for some years
1955 Crown Road all 3 as above plus Mary Mannix
1958 all 3 plus Mary Kidman

Louisa Maud

Yes, I have that info. 1955 was when Michael and Mary married. I think Mary could have been Irish. On her tribute it has Mary with Maura in brackets.

1964 Michael's father Thomas R Kidman died and 11 Crown Road was the given address. Somehow don't think I'll find out why and when Michael and Mary went to Wales. I was just curious to fill in the gap.

cupcake
Title: Re: Time in Caernarvon
Post by: cupcake on Wednesday 12 September 18 06:39 BST (UK)
There is probate shown as Thomas Randolph Kidman dying 06/01/1964, probate to Michael Randolph Kidman, occ. project repair mechanic, so this might be a clue to his occupation throughout the years , there is an amount  of money shown

Louisa Maud

That is an interesting find. Certainly sounds as if his occupation as project repair mechanic, may have carried on throughout the years and,  may answer one of my questions.

Thank you

cupcake
Title: Re: Time in Caernarvon
Post by: cupcake on Friday 14 September 18 06:37 BST (UK)
She might well have been from Welsh decent

Was there an age or date of birth?
 
Louisa Maud

She may have been from Welsh decent.

I don't know her date of birth haven't found it. - I was going by her age 79 yrs when she died in 2012 and would make her birth year about 1933.

From her tribute it has KIDMAN - MARY (Maura)   and may have been called Maura ?

Maura is a female given name used in English, Spanish, Italian, Greece, Scots Gaelic, and Irish Gaelic. It appears as the feminine form of the Roman given name Maurus and as an Anglicisation of Máire, the Irish form of Mary.

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Title: Re: Time in Caernarvon
Post by: cupcake on Friday 14 September 18 06:54 BST (UK)
This might have nothing to do with this family, but I searched for MAURA MANNIX
only 1 came up, married 1967 Hampstead to Joseph E Dowling
2 children born in Paddington
Jason Edward Dowling 1960's and Joanna Mary Dowling 1970's

Other than that I cannot find anything else about Maura Mannix

Louisa Maud

Don't think they have any connection with the family.

I haven't been able to find anything else on Mary(Maura) Mannix  - she is a mystery.

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Title: Re: Time in Caernarvon
Post by: cupcake on Monday 13 July 20 13:14 BST (UK)
It has been a while since I was on Rootschat regarding this.

I would like to know if Michael and Mary Kidman had children & could still be alive

Thank you