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Title: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: Dolmen on Monday 10 September 18 15:10 BST (UK)
Irish Genealogy News says that project funding for the digitisation of Church of Ireland (Protestant) registers has been received from the Irish government - https://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2018/09/church-of-ireland-parish-registers-to.html (https://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2018/09/church-of-ireland-parish-registers-to.html)

This is fantastic news not just for researchers with CofI ancestors. As the Established Church until 1870, there are records of people of many denominations in the collection.

Can't wait!
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: Sinann on Monday 10 September 18 16:19 BST (UK)
Excellent news.
That will make life a lot easier for a lot of people.
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Post by: jaybelnz on Monday 10 September 18 23:34 BST (UK)
Wonderful!! 👏👏☘🍀
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: philipsearching on Tuesday 11 September 18 00:12 BST (UK)
Dolmen - you are my hero of the week  :) - Thank you for posting this information.

No idea how long this project will take to complete, but as it was announced 10 Sep 2018 with a grant of up to 100,000 Euros it's a biggie!

Philip
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: frostyknight on Tuesday 11 September 18 18:51 BST (UK)
Thanks Dolmen, great news.
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: Jon_ni on Wednesday 12 September 18 01:06 BST (UK)
Good news, however (just as in England) it will not be the one stop shop that the Irish Census & GRO sites are. When researching any future database it is going to be important to refer to The List of Parish Registers of the Church of Ireland (link to Sep 2018 copy) https://www.ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/registers/ParishRegisters/PARISHREGISTERS.pdf (https://www.ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/registers/ParishRegisters/PARISHREGISTERS.pdf) as throughout Ireland but especially in Northern Ireland many remain in Local Custody and are not in the Church Library ie the ones without any colour coding in the pdf. PRONI hold some originals rather than the RCB, and of course some were lost 1922.
For completeness here is PRONI's 2011 list / guide as to what exists & is available within their walls on microfilm https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/publications/proni-guide-church-records (https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/publications/proni-guide-church-records)
or has been recently digitised by them https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/digitised-church-records-proni (https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/digitised-church-records-proni) Some more are due soon http://britishgenes.blogspot.com/2018/06/new-digitised-northern-irish-church.html (http://britishgenes.blogspot.com/2018/06/new-digitised-northern-irish-church.html)
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: hilarykellis on Wednesday 12 September 18 12:15 BST (UK)
Good news, however (just as in England) it will not be the one stop shop that the Irish Census & GRO sites are. When researching any future database it is going to be important to refer to The List of Parish Registers of the Church of Ireland (link to Sep 2018 copy) https://www.ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/registers/ParishRegisters/PARISHREGISTERS.pdf (https://www.ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/registers/ParishRegisters/PARISHREGISTERS.pdf) as throughout Ireland but especially in Northern Ireland many remain in Local Custody and are not in the Church Library ie the ones without any colour coding in the pdf. PRONI hold some originals rather than the RCB, and of course some were lost 1922.
For completeness here is PRONI's 2011 list / guide as to what exists & is available within their walls on microfilm https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/publications/proni-guide-church-records (https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/publications/proni-guide-church-records)
or has been recently digitised by them https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/digitised-church-records-proni (https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/digitised-church-records-proni) Some more are due soon http://britishgenes.blogspot.com/2018/06/new-digitised-northern-irish-church.html (http://britishgenes.blogspot.com/2018/06/new-digitised-northern-irish-church.html)

The news I read said there will be an effort made to digitise records held in local custody.
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: Jon_ni on Wednesday 12 September 18 13:52 BST (UK)
Hilary
You are quite correct, I had not clicked the link to the Church of Ireland press release at the bottom of the Irish Genealogy News.
"The project will, over time, be extended to include register collections currently in local parish custody, and ultimately to index the content and share information from these sources with a worldwide audience in collaboration with the Department through the state website: www.irishgenealogy.ie "
one can only hope that there is sufficient Irish state funding to include digitisation on the Northern parishes too, they did do so for the GRO data.
There is a Facebook video of the Minister visiting the Library https://www.facebook.com/JosephaMadiganFG/videos/285347352192773/UzpfSTM5MzYzNzc1NzM2NzY3MjoyMDE2OTM3Mjk4MzcxMDM1/ (https://www.facebook.com/JosephaMadiganFG/videos/285347352192773/UzpfSTM5MzYzNzc1NzM2NzY3MjoyMDE2OTM3Mjk4MzcxMDM1/)
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 12 September 18 14:13 BST (UK)
100,000k won't go far especially if there are any travelling and hotel bills to be included.
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Post by: hilarykellis on Wednesday 12 September 18 17:33 BST (UK)
Any guess as to how long the project will take to be completed?
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 12 September 18 17:42 BST (UK)
Have Tenders gone out yet?
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 12 September 18 19:14 BST (UK)
I read the initial release (link inpost #1) which talks about "imaging".
So, are we talking about "imaging" further records (OCR) or transcribing, and more importantly, indexing individual transcriptions? I can see mention of  "index the content" which does not necessarily imply indexing individual records.
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: Jon_ni on Wednesday 12 September 18 23:20 BST (UK)
I read the initial release (link inpost #1) which talks about "imaging".
So, are we talking about "imaging" further records (OCR) or transcribing, and more importantly, indexing individual transcriptions? I can see mention of  "index the content" which does not necessarily imply indexing individual records.
in the Facebook video clip Dr. Susan Hood RCB Librarian & Archivist is heard saying the Dublin city parishes have already been digitised. If look on geneology.ie those have had the full works are searchable by name in a similar way to the GRO records on the same website. All names and addresses have been transcribed and entered eg father & mother + address for baptisms; names + addresses, father's names occupations & witnesses for later marriages (where they exist) all with a link to the original register image. Advanced search allows entry of Family member names or a keyword (eg Street or Witness) to narrow results. All hugely time consuming and given the apparent accuracy during a brief browse not farmed out to cheap foreign labour Ancestry style. So will take years, one can only hope that additional funding is forthcoming as required. Of the few I clicked on some were new colour images and others greyscale like the old LDS microfilms had been utilised.
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/ (https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/)
My ancestors hail from the North + various counties in England so I have had no need to search the existing Dublin C of I parish data but there must be some on here who have & might know how long it took those to do & how they found them. Like the GRO images there is no arrow, only way to flick pages is to change the last digit in the web address.
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 12 September 18 23:57 BST (UK)
Give them a chance, the only announced they would get the money on Monday, probably haven't even got it yet, never mind started spending it.
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 13 September 18 00:20 BST (UK)
Give them a chance, the only announced they would get the money on Monday, probably haven't even got it yet, never mind started spending it.


 ;D  ;D  Could be 6 months or more before any contract has even been signed
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 13 September 18 00:25 BST (UK)
Any guess as to how long the project will take to be completed?


11 months, 4 days 17 hours and 19 minutes.
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 13 September 18 00:38 BST (UK)
Sadly it's the wrong era for me but will be very welcomed by many however...

I don't understand why, the way English/Welsh & Irish sites work when compared with the way Scotland have theirs, so easy to use & navigate (when you know the workings) compared to the others?

Annie
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 13 September 18 00:54 BST (UK)
Sadly it's the wrong era for me but will be very welcomed by many however...

I don't understand why, the way English/Welsh & Irish sites work when compared with the way Scotland have theirs, so easy to use & navigate (when you know the workings) compared to the others?

Annie
Can't comment on Scottish sites as I've never used one but Irish Genealogy and the National Archives sites are simple to use.
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 22 October 18 21:21 BST (UK)
Sadly it's the wrong era for me but will be very welcomed by many however...

I don't understand why, the way English/Welsh & Irish sites work when compared with the way Scotland have theirs, so easy to use & navigate (when you know the workings) compared to the others?

Annie
Can't comment on Scottish sites as I've never used one but Irish Genealogy and the National Archives sites are simple to use.

Indeed, Sinann, they are excellent sites and are FREE to use  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 09 January 19 01:15 GMT (UK)
They are ready to start work
https://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2019/01/rcb-library-restricts-access-to.html
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: jaybelnz on Wednesday 09 January 19 03:41 GMT (UK)
Woohoo👍👍👍👍, the first promising tip I have had while searching for the names of my Irish 3rd great grandmothers who were not named on the 1845 Dublin marriage certificate on the  C.O.I. marriage cert of my 2xIrish Great Grandparent.  I don't have a clue who the mother of the bride was, all I know about her is that her name was Mary Jane Fleming, and later found that the groom's mother's name was Sarah Annie (or Anna). Hope springs eternal!

Cheers
jeanne😀
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Wednesday 09 January 19 04:07 GMT (UK)
Wonderful news to hear :D  Hey JB I have an Irish Sarah, but she was also known as Sally, just something to put away in your little box of enigmas ;D


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: hilarykellis on Wednesday 09 January 19 20:18 GMT (UK)
They are ready to start work
https://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2019/01/rcb-library-restricts-access-to.html

Iím so excited! I hope they upload them in batches as they are completed so we will be able to start perusing the records before the entire project is completed.
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: jaybelnz on Friday 18 January 19 23:07 GMT (UK)
Wonderful news to hear :D  Hey JB I have an Irish Sarah, but she was also known as Sally, just something to put away in your little box of enigmas ;D


Cheers
KHP

Thank you! 🌺
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: hurworth on Friday 25 January 19 06:29 GMT (UK)
Woohoo👍👍👍👍, the first promising tip I have had while searching for the names of my Irish 3rd great grandmothers who were not named on the 1845 Dublin marriage certificate on the  C.O.I. marriage cert of my 2xIrish Great Grandparent.  I don't have a clue who the mother of the bride was, all I know about her is that her name was Mary Jane Fleming, and later found that the groom's mother's name was Sarah Annie (or Anna). Hope springs eternal!

Cheers
jeanne😀

Unfortunately they only required the names of the fathers of the bride and groom for civil registration then.
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: hallmark on Friday 25 January 19 06:50 GMT (UK)
Woohoo👍👍👍👍, the first promising tip I have had while searching for the names of my Irish 3rd great grandmothers who were not named on the 1845 Dublin marriage certificate on the  C.O.I. marriage cert of my 2xIrish Great Grandparent.  I don't have a clue who the mother of the bride was, all I know about her is that her name was Mary Jane Fleming, and later found that the groom's mother's name was Sarah Annie (or Anna). Hope springs eternal!

Cheers
jeanne😀

Unfortunately they only required the names of the fathers of the bride and groom for civil registration then.


These have nothing to do with Civil Reg.
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: hurworth on Friday 25 January 19 07:46 GMT (UK)


These have nothing to do with Civil Reg.

For a Protestant marriage it may have something to do with it, because this was the first year that Protestant marriages were registered, and the churches used the approved stationery and then forwarded the information to the registrar.

If the name of the mother of the bride is in the CoI record that's a bonus indeed.


Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: hallmark on Friday 25 January 19 08:15 GMT (UK)
They are Church Registers, some going back to 1700's....nothing to do with Civil Reg
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: hallmark on Friday 25 January 19 08:19 GMT (UK)
Cork-Holy Trinity start 1643


https://www.ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/ParRegs.pdf gets one the Dates for each Church Register!!
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: hurworth on Friday 25 January 19 08:55 GMT (UK)
The 1770 records have nothing to do with Civil Registration, but 1845 may well do as the minister passed on the information.
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: hallmark on Friday 25 January 19 09:09 GMT (UK)
 


THESE ARE BEING DIGITISED   
https://www.ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/ParRegs.pdf
Title: Re: Church of Ireland registers are going to be digitised
Post by: jaybelnz on Saturday 26 January 19 01:22 GMT (UK)
Great! 👍👍 Hopefully I might be able to find out at last (when it's eventually rolled out) what my 2x Irish Great grandmothers maiden names were, when and where they were born, and who their parents were!  💞💞
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Post by: kooky on Saturday 26 January 19 08:38 GMT (UK)
Quite pleased about this!
I have various female ancestors about whom I have no idea!
Kooky  8)