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Title: Dennis Edward Brennan
Post by: Karytay on Tuesday 11 September 18 08:30 BST (UK)
I am stuck! need help please to go farther. Dennis Edward Brennan b. abt. 1866 in Briggs Main. He was a police constable for Newcastle. Dennis married Mary McGrady b. 1867 and they had eight children all born in Newcastle - Ellen b. abt 1894, Charles James b. abt 1892, Susan Jane b. abt 1897, William Terence b.abt 1900, Francis Cornelius b. abt 1903, Lawrence Alphonos b. abt 1906, Henry Leo b. abt 1909.

Need help finding Dennis Edwards Brennan b. 1866  parents, please. Also his wife Mary McGrady's  parents . Thanks
Title: Re: Dennis Edward Brennan
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 11 September 18 09:01 BST (UK)
The marriage certificate for Dennis and Mary should give both their fathers names as a starting point if you can't find birth registrations for either of them.

Closest birth I can see is Dennis Brannan Jun 1866 Tynemouth mothers name Cavannah but this may be a completely different person.

What birth place does Mary have on census please?

Title: Re: Dennis Edward Brennan
Post by: Karytay on Tuesday 11 September 18 09:23 BST (UK)
Long Horsley is Marys place of birth. She and Dennis got married in 1892 Castle Ward.  They lived in the sub district of Byker. I do not have their marriage certificate and on the transcript that I have there are no father's names.

I came across christening transcripts I think it is their children. It looks like the names are written in Latin.  Henricus Leo Brennan Newcastle- upon- Tyne christened 16 May 1909 St.Dominic. the parents names are written as Dionysii Eduwardi Brennan and Mariae Mcgrady.

As for Dennis Edward Brennan's birth registration I have not been able to find it either.

Just found a transcript for Mary McGrady's birth. It is the only one I can find so must be her's. Baptized on the 17 Feb 1867 Long Horsley. Farther's name Charles McGrady and mother Judith McGrady.
Title: Re: Dennis Edward Brennan
Post by: Comberton on Tuesday 11 September 18 10:56 BST (UK)
Marriage is on Family Search

16-1-1892
Bell's Close Northumberland
his father Jacobi Brennan
her parents Hugh Callerton & Caroli McGrady
Title: Re: Dennis Edward Brennan
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Tuesday 11 September 18 11:37 BST (UK)
I have just looked at the microfilm no. 1961 at Tyne and Wear Archives at the marriage at St George RC Church at Bells Close.

It records that Dionisium? Edwardum Brennan 'ex Police Station, Elswick son of Jacobi Brennan and Mariam McGrady daughter of Caroli McGrath ex High Gallery in

Witnesses were:

Jacobo McGrady ex High Callerton
Maria Anna Shaw ex Bells Close

Therefore, I think her parent was not 'Hugh' - this refers to the area Mary was from.

I wonder if father 'Caroli' means that he may have been Carl?

Amended: Caroli could mean Charles.

Title: Re: Dennis Edward Brennan
Post by: cath151 on Tuesday 11 September 18 11:47 BST (UK)
 Did find this...
1891 Census
Red Cow, Black Callerton
James Brennon  head 60 Ag Lab  Ireland
Bridget "            wife  54               "
Denis E "            son  25  Ag Lab  Northumberland, Newburn.
Cathy
Title: Re: Dennis Edward Brennan
Post by: Karytay on Tuesday 11 September 18 11:58 BST (UK)
yes, cath151 I saw that census as well. the Brennan's could be from Ireland?

Rivir tyne lass I thank you might of found the right family.

Thanks comberton.

This gives me a lot to work with. Thanks everyone.
Title: Re: Dennis Edward Brennan
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Tuesday 11 September 18 12:05 BST (UK)
Karytay,

http://www.margaret-hall-genealogy.com/page7.htm

I would suggest contacting Tyne and Wear Archives.  They do hold some police records and I believe it is possible to access these following certain procedures. I.e. proving the person is dead, filling out forms etc.

See the above website and look under user guides then 'law and order' to see all records which this archives hold.
Title: Re: Dennis Edward Brennan
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Tuesday 11 September 18 12:33 BST (UK)
I have found the baptism you mentioned at St Dominic RC Newcastle

Besides the information you already have got on their son Henry the record also records that he was born on 22 April 1909 and home address looks like 'Benton (Bridge?) Jesmond Dene.'

Godparents Michael Mc(?) & Maria McGrath
Title: Re: Dennis Edward Brennan
Post by: Karytay on Tuesday 11 September 18 12:56 BST (UK)
River Tyne Lass, looking at the baptism again I think it is the right one. For the address is the same on the census. So now I will have to see who the witnesses are. Possible relatives.
Title: Re: Dennis Edward Brennan
Post by: Karytay on Friday 12 November 21 16:48 GMT (UK)
Looking for Mary Mc Grady on Family Search I came across an 1881 England census for a Charles Mc Grady and a Susan Mc Grady.  Which I feel could be Mary's Parents, why? a few things, one the place Callerton High same as some other records. Also Castle Ward were Mary and Dennis Edward Brennan were married. Then the name Susan is also the name of a daughter of Mary.
Could this be correct, have I finally found Mary's connection?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WM-W9MK

One more thing on the transcript it has Bilk Heads, Northumberland. Where is this place, looked it up on Google but nothing came up.
Title: Re: Dennis Edward Brennan
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 12 November 21 21:50 GMT (UK)
1871 under Mc Gredy living Belsay N'land

Charles 33 head labourer born Ireland
Susan 32 wife born Ireland
James 6 son born Ireland
Mary 3 daughter born Bukhead N'land

plus 4 lodgers from Ireland
Title: Re: Dennis Edward Brennan
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 12 November 21 21:58 GMT (UK)
If you look up the birth registration for daughter Jane McGrady who is 9 in 1881

Dec 1871 Castle Ward mothers maiden name Morgan

Title: Re: Dennis Edward Brennan
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 12 November 21 22:01 GMT (UK)
Could this be Mary

Mary McGrody Mar 1867 Rothbury mothers maiden name Morgan

Also a Catharine McGrady Mar 1873 Castle Ward with mothers name Morgan
and a death for Catharine Jun 1873

Title: Re: Dennis Edward Brennan
Post by: Karytay on Saturday 13 November 21 18:03 GMT (UK)
Hi Milliepede, thanks for feedback. The McGrady name certainly get spelt differently no wonder it is confusing. I have come across the name as Grady or O'Grady as well.

It could be Mary in Rothbury