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Title: Help finding relatives
Post by: paulmayuk on Wednesday 12 September 18 20:02 BST (UK)
I'm looking for help tracing family members for my second cousin and myself and i don't have a lot of info so it's a shot in the dark. I've tried Ancestry and freebmd but to no avail so putting out feelers in here to see if anyone can help. Second cousin's name is Sheila b 1940's. Her parents are Edna May Bell (b 21.01.1920)1st Marriage to Herbert Earnest Lovegrove (b 09.04 1917) in Sept 1939. 2nd marriage to Joseph William Lattimer (b 19.03.1921) in Sept 1941. According to second cousin, Edna May Bell's 'parents' were Robert Reid Bell (b 1863) and Mar(r)ion Steele (b 1867). However, Freebbmd has the mother of Edna May Bell as being named Biggarstaff. That's where we draw a blank for any other ancestors. The only clue i have about Biggarstaff is she talked with a scottish accent, so presuming maybe Scottish. I don't have any access to scottish records so can't go any further. If someone can point me in the right direction I'll have a go. Be great if i or someone out there can help with this very limited amount of info to help us in our research. Fingers crossed!!!
Title: Re: Help finding ancestors
Post by: groom on Wednesday 12 September 18 20:06 BST (UK)
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According to second cousin, Edna May Bell's 'parents' were Robert Reid Bell (b 1863) and Mar(r)ion Steele (b 1867). However, Freebbmd has the mother of Edna May Bell as being named Biggarstaff.

Could she have been married before, so her maiden name was Biggarstaff and her married name Steele?

Is your second cousin still alive, if so you need to remove her name?
Title: Re: Help finding ancestors
Post by: Meriel on Wednesday 12 September 18 20:42 BST (UK)
Hmm if Marion Steele was born in 1867 that would make her 53 years old when she had Edna Mary Bell. Not impossible but I would have thought unlikely....

I have done a quick search on Ancestry and there are at least a couple of Edna M Bells born in 1920 so wondering if you definitely have the right parents there for her?

Does your second cousin have a copy of her parent's marriage certificate?
Title: Re: Help finding relatives
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Wednesday 12 September 18 21:15 BST (UK)
The only Robert Reid Bell I can find was b 1893 in Newcastle. He's on the electoral register there in the 1920s with a Marion Bell and Hugh Biggerstaff

Title: Re: Help finding relatives
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Wednesday 12 September 18 21:25 BST (UK)
It was Robert's father James who was b c1863 and mother Mary c1867

Marys maiden name appears to be Reid. Not sure where Steele comes from.

Marion Biggerstaff was b Glasgow
Title: Re: Help finding relatives
Post by: Wendy2305 on Wednesday 12 September 18 21:35 BST (UK)
The only place you will find original Scottish records is Scotlands People website a pay to view site but very reasonably priced its free to register and to search the indexes
Title: Re: Help finding relatives
Post by: Wendy2305 on Wednesday 12 September 18 21:40 BST (UK)
There's a birth of a Marion Biggerstaff registered in 1891 in the Maryhill area of Glasgow you can download this and you should get the name of her parents including her mothers maiden name, where and when they were married
Title: Re: Help finding relatives
Post by: Annette7 on Wednesday 12 September 18 21:54 BST (UK)
A Robert R Bell married a Marion Steele June quarter 1919 Newcastle upon Tyne.

Annette
Title: Re: Help finding ancestors
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Wednesday 12 September 18 21:56 BST (UK)
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According to second cousin, Edna May Bell's 'parents' were Robert Reid Bell (b 1863) and Mar(r)ion Steele (b 1867). However, Freebbmd has the mother of Edna May Bell as being named Biggarstaff.

Could she have been married before, so her maiden name was Biggarstaff and her married name Steele?

Is your second cousin still alive, if so you need to remove her name?

Q1 1912 Marion Biggerstaff married Thomas Steele
Title: Re: Help finding relatives
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Wednesday 12 September 18 22:00 BST (UK)
There's a birth of a Marion Biggerstaff registered in 1891 in the Maryhill area of Glasgow you can download this and you should get the name of her parents including her mothers maiden name, where and when they were married

1901 census in Maryhill has parents Adam, b Ayr c1856  and Marion, b Prestwich c1859
Title: Re: Help finding relatives
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Wednesday 12 September 18 22:07 BST (UK)
I suspect this i Marion's first husband

Thomas Steele
Death Date:    1 Jul 1916
Private, Northumberland Fusiliers
Regimental Number:    23/775

His effects record notes widow Marion

He's commemorated on the Thiepval Memorial
Title: Re: Help finding relatives
Post by: Wendy2305 on Wednesday 12 September 18 22:18 BST (UK)
Marion's parents were Adam and Marion Smith married 1878 in Partick. Marions birth from Family Search  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTXB-L3X
Adam's parents look to be Samuel and Jessie McCrorie
Adams birth also from Family Search https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYYG-1MX
A family tree on Family search has a marriage for Samuel and Jessie in Ayrshire in 1853 but nothing coming up on Scotlands People
found the marriage it is indexed under Bickerstaff
Title: Re: Help finding relatives
Post by: paulmayuk on Thursday 13 September 18 20:12 BST (UK)
Hi everyone I must apologise about some of the dates. I have revised them below:-

Robert Reid Bell b 1893 d 1962
Marion Steele b 1892

I don't know if this helps any.

Regards

PS someone said if second cousin is still alive then her name has to be removed, can i ask why?
Title: Re: Help finding relatives
Post by: sarah on Thursday 13 September 18 20:17 BST (UK)
Hi Paul,

It is against RootsChat rules to publish information on living folk, often the details given can be security questions in banking etc full name, date of birth mother maiden name etc You are best to be a little more general " M Brown born in the 1960's"

Regards

Sarah
Title: Re: Help finding relatives
Post by: Maiden Stone on Thursday 13 September 18 21:47 BST (UK)

1901 census in Maryhill has parents Adam, b Ayr c1856  and Marion, b Prestwich c1859

Marion's birthplace was likely to have been Prestwick, next town to Ayr, rather than Prestwich, which is in Lancashire, England. Often confused.