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Title: Where do I start looking for German births and baptisms.
Post by: solidrock on Friday 14 September 18 02:09 BST (UK)
Where do I start looking for German births and baptisms.
Looking for the birth of Hermann Bollmann born about 1844,  Lesum, Hannover, Lower Saxony, Germany or Bremerhaven, Bremen, Germany. He left Bremerhaven as a crew member of the
SS Louis Kniffler bound for Sydney, Australia in 1865. In 1869 he married Rebecca Funston who was born in Ireland about 1851, Rebecca arrived in Sydney in 1865. Hermann died in 1916, Leichhardt, New South Wales. I've searched about every where online but can't locate his birth or parents.
Title: Re: Where do I start looking for German births and baptisms.
Post by: Rosinish on Friday 14 September 18 03:05 BST (UK)
Are there no parental details on marriage or death?

Maybe try;

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1473009

https://www.thoughtco.com/researching-german-ancestors-1421983

Annie
Title: Re: Where do I start looking for German births and baptisms.
Post by: solidrock on Friday 14 September 18 04:02 BST (UK)
Are there no parental details on marriage or death?

Maybe try;

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1473009

https://www.thoughtco.com/researching-german-ancestors-1421983

Annie

Nothing on his marriage and death records or familysearch.
Title: Re: Where do I start looking for German births and baptisms.
Post by: TreeSpirit on Friday 14 September 18 05:34 BST (UK)

Maybe a possibility in this "Ortsfamilienbuch"?:
http://www.online-ofb.de/famreport.php?ofb=grohn&ID=I09732
Title: Re: Where do I start looking for German births and baptisms.
Post by: solidrock on Friday 14 September 18 06:16 BST (UK)

Maybe a possibility in this "Ortsfamilienbuch"?:
http://www.online-ofb.de/famreport.php?ofb=grohn&ID=I09732

Thanks TreeSpirit could be.  ;D
That looks like an interesting site, pity it's in German.
Title: Re: Where do I start looking for German births and baptisms.
Post by: TreeSpirit on Friday 14 September 18 07:18 BST (UK)
That is so weird ... German language being used on german sites! ;)
So, maybe it is time to learn the basics ?   (I've had to do that myself for Swedish and Finnish. I've still got some long goto lists with the most used words)

On the other hand .....Have a good look at the left hand side of that page There is an option to set it to English. Not all gets translated however. Personally I think Google translate does a better job. Give it a try.
 :D
 
Title: Re: Where do I start looking for German births and baptisms.
Post by: davecapps on Friday 14 September 18 07:39 BST (UK)
Hi

Ancestry says:

in the Elbe-Weser Triangle, Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1574-1945

Name: Hermann Bollmann
Gender: männlich (Male)
Event Type: Taufe (Baptism)
Birth Date: 5 Nov 1844
Baptism Date: 22 Dez 1844 (22 Dec 1844)
Baptism Place: Lesum, Hannover, Preußen (Germany)
Father: Johann Bollmann
Mother: Metta Wismer
Legitimacy: Ehelich
Parish as it Appears: Lesum
Custodian: Niedersächsisches Landesarchiv, Standesort Stade

Dave
Title: Re: Where do I start looking for German births and baptisms.
Post by: solidrock on Friday 14 September 18 09:21 BST (UK)
Hi

Ancestry says:

in the Elbe-Weser Triangle, Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1574-1945

Name: Hermann Bollmann
Gender: männlich (Male)
Event Type: Taufe (Baptism)
Birth Date: 5 Nov 1844
Baptism Date: 22 Dez 1844 (22 Dec 1844)
Baptism Place: Lesum, Hannover, Preußen (Germany)
Father: Johann Bollmann
Mother: Metta Wismer
Legitimacy: Ehelich
Parish as it Appears: Lesum
Custodian: Niedersächsisches Landesarchiv, Standesort Stade

Dave

Hi  davecapps,  Have already seen that one and I think one of the has the mothers name transcribe wrongly. According to Hermanns death cert his father, named only as Bollmann, was a rope maker, so are there any census's for around 1844?
Title: Re: Where do I start looking for German births and baptisms.
Post by: solidrock on Friday 14 September 18 09:32 BST (UK)
That is so weird ... German language being used on german sites! ;)
So, maybe it is time to learn the basics ?   (I've had to do that myself for Swedish and Finnish. I've still got some long goto lists with the most used words)

On the other hand .....Have a good look at the left hand side of that page There is an option to set it to English. Not all gets translated however. Personally I think Google translate does a better job. Give it a try.
 :D

I'm to old to learn basics, I already live in a country that I don't speak the language.  ;D  Tried the English button but it's all still in German.  ???
Title: Re: Where do I start looking for German births and baptisms.
Post by: TreeSpirit on Friday 14 September 18 09:42 BST (UK)

I'm between 2 languages myself, but I like to talk and practice makes perfect ...LOL

Have you tried my second and preferred option via Google translate that does such an amazing job nowadays. Here is the result for a German to English translate:
https://translate.google.com.au/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.online-ofb.de%2Ffamreport.php%3Fofb%3Dgrohn%26ID%3DI09732&edit-text=&act=url
Title: Re: Where do I start looking for German births and baptisms.
Post by: davecapps on Friday 14 September 18 10:51 BST (UK)
If you look a the corresponding document in Ancestry

https://search.ancestry.com.au/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=61007&h=1100087&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=CBn1&_phstart=successSource

Entry 234 reads:

Johann Bollmann, Reepschläger und Einhäusling in Gröhden1 und Meta2 ge
borene, Wihms, den 5 Nov geb Sohn, genannt: Hermann. Gev(atter). Hermann Hinke
und Meta Hinke

Johann Bollmann, ropemaker and day worker in Gröhden1 and Meta2 nee Wihms on the 5 Nov. born son Hermann
Witnesses: Hermann Hinke and Meta Hinke


1Gröhden – that will be Grohn
https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/10626025

2Meta could well be a nickname


Treespirts link to the OFB´s is a perfect hit

Dave

Title: Re: Where do I start looking for German births and baptisms.
Post by: solidrock on Friday 14 September 18 11:16 BST (UK)
If you look a the corresponding document in Ancestry

https://search.ancestry.com.au/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=61007&h=1100087&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=CBn1&_phstart=successSource

Entry 234 reads:

Johann Bollmann, Reepschläger und Einhäusling in Gröhden1 und Meta2 ge
borene, Wihms, den 5 Nov geb Sohn, genannt: Hermann. Gev(atter). Hermann Hinke
und Meta Hinke

Johann Bollmann, ropemaker and day worker in Gröhden1 and Meta2 nee Wihms on the 5 Nov. born son Hermann
Witnesses: Hermann Hinke and Meta Hinke


1Gröhden – that will be Grohn
https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/10626025

2Meta could well be a nickname


Treespirts link to the OFB´s is a perfect hit

Dave

Blimey. More German to translate, it can wait until tomorrow. Thanks for the link.
Title: Re: Where do I start looking for German births and baptisms.
Post by: davecapps on Friday 14 September 18 11:25 BST (UK)
What do you want to translate?

I´ve already translated the entry 234 ???
Title: Re: Where do I start looking for German births and baptisms.
Post by: Karen McDonald on Saturday 15 September 18 19:03 BST (UK)
Hi,

Just wanted to add some info to Dave's translation.

Meta is an old name, usually - but not necessarily - the short form of Margaretha/Margarethe/Margarete.

Just in case it helps with further research...

Best regards,
Karen
Title: Re: Where do I start looking for German births and baptisms.
Post by: solidrock on Sunday 16 September 18 01:15 BST (UK)
Hi,

Just wanted to add some info to Dave's translation.

Meta is an old name, usually - but not necessarily - the short form of Margaretha/Margarethe/Margarete.

Just in case it helps with further research...

Best regards,
Karen

Hi Karen, Thank you for that additional info it could help a lot. There is some confusion on who was Johann's wife, it could be Wilhelmine Wiems or Metta Wismer, trying to find the marriage record for Johann, hoping it was in the same church,  St. Martini, Lesum.
Title: Re: Where do I start looking for German births and baptisms.
Post by: SwissGill on Sunday 16 September 18 07:47 BST (UK)
My gt grandmother's christian name was Margaretha. Her brother who emigrated to the States called his first chiled "Meta".

Interesting, there are a few "prominent" women in Switzerland with the name "Meta".