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Title: Alice Davies -
Post by: Jackarmy1 on Saturday 15 September 18 01:23 BST (UK)
Hi,  I'm looking to find Alice Davies (sometimes Davis) mothers maiden name. What I know so far is Alice married Charles Henry Jinks in 1907. Her father was named on the marriage cert as William Davis. I've picked up the family on the 1891 census living at Victor St,  Stoke On Trent.
Family details are

Head William Davis 1846
Wife Charlotte E Davis 1861
Dau Mary E Davis 1880
Dau Alice Davis 1885 Hanley
Son John Davis 1888
Dau Edith Davies 1891, bap 1893.

Maybe I'm having a dull moment but, I can't find any other birth details for any of the children nor any other baptisms.
Is anyone able to locate any details on Charlotte E or even when she married  William please, many thanks in advance as always  - richard
Title: Re: Alice Davies -
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 15 September 18 04:18 BST (UK)
Maybe:

DAVIS, ALICE mmn EDGE
GRO Reference: 1885  J Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT  Volume 06B  Page 222

Maybe not, a William marries an Eliza Ann Edge in 1882.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Alice Davies -
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 15 September 18 04:30 BST (UK)
Here is the family, as mentioned, on the 1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:WWX6-4W2

Jamjar
Title: Re: Alice Davies -
Post by: Comberton on Saturday 15 September 18 04:39 BST (UK)
Another child William was baptised at the same time as Edith
Baptised 19th April 1893 Wellington, Hanley
Edith born 23rd June 1890
William born 1st April 1893
Abode 10 Back West Street


It looks like they didn't marry and Charlotte's surname was Rigby
1901 Stoke
Charlotte E Rigby
Mary Rigby
Alice Rigby
John W Rigby 
Edith Rigby
William Rigby
Lily Rigby Grandaughter, must be Alice's child
Details fit with 1891 census and 1911 which is a mix of Davis & Rigby

Likely birth regs
Mary Elizabeth Rigby 4/1881
Alice Elizabeth Rigby 1/1885 matches 1939 Register dob
John William Rigby 2/1888
all Stoke on Trent mmn Rigby

Only Edith is Edith Davies 3/1890 Stoke on Trent mmn Rigby

William Rigby 3/1892 Stoke on Trent mmn Rigby
The birth year on his baptism was 1893 but could be a mistake as the year was 1893




Title: Re: Alice Davies -
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 15 September 18 04:45 BST (UK)
William on the 1881 as a lodger:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27V-7ZPB

Jamjar
Title: Re: Alice Davies -
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 15 September 18 04:49 BST (UK)
No maiden name:

RIGBY, MARY  ELIZABETH
GRO Reference: 1881  D Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT  Volume 06B  Page 213

RIGBY, ALICE  ELIZABETH
GRO Reference: 1885  M Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT  Volume 06B  Page 200

Jamjar
Title: Re: Alice Davies -
Post by: Jackarmy1 on Saturday 15 September 18 04:52 BST (UK)
Thanks both, the 1901 census looks correct but why are the children given the surname Davis on the 1891 register but Rigby on the 1901 ?
Title: Re: Alice Davies -
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 15 September 18 04:55 BST (UK)
Charlotte on the 1881, possibly:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27V-ZNWQ

Jamjar
Title: Re: Alice Davies -
Post by: Jackarmy1 on Saturday 15 September 18 04:58 BST (UK)
Charlotte on the 1881, possibly:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27V-ZNWQ

Jamjar

Hi Jamjar, I'm not registered on family search, is that the Vine St address in 1881 ?
Title: Re: Alice Davies -
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 15 September 18 05:06 BST (UK)
Itís free to register with family search. No subscriptions at all.

Yes, Vine St. Sheís a tailoress aged 21, parents John and Elizabeth.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Alice Davies -
Post by: Comberton on Saturday 15 September 18 05:21 BST (UK)
Charlotte Elizabeth Shaw Kellett Rigby
3/1861 Stoke on Trent
mmn Kellett

John Rigby
Elizabeth Kellett
13th March 1858
Preston St John's
Title: Re: Alice Davies -
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 15 September 18 05:24 BST (UK)
Her brother:

RIGBY, WILLIAM  SHAW AMBLER KELLETT   KELLETT
GRO Reference: 1862  S Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT  Volume 06B  Page 154

Jamjar
Title: Re: Alice Davies -
Post by: Jackarmy1 on Saturday 15 September 18 05:30 BST (UK)
Brilliant stuff, thanks both.
Title: Re: Alice Davies -
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 15 September 18 05:55 BST (UK)
Did you notice that Mary A Harrowsmith was born in Hanley?

I was thinking she may have been a RIGBY:

HARROWSMITH, ALBERT  HENRY mmn RIGBY
GRO Reference: 1879  S Quarter in CHERTSEY  Volume 02A  Page 46

HARROWSMITH, ROBERT  WILLIAM mmn RIGBY
GRO Reference: 1881  S Quarter in SALFORD  Volume 08D  Page 128

Jamjar

Title: Re: Alice Davies -
Post by: Jackarmy1 on Saturday 15 September 18 06:04 BST (UK)
I can't find them on the 1911 census on FindMyPast that you mentioned earlier. No hadn't seen Harrowsmith,
Title: Re: Alice Davies -
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 15 September 18 06:07 BST (UK)
I donít have access to Find My Past.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Alice Davies -
Post by: Jackarmy1 on Saturday 15 September 18 06:15 BST (UK)
Are they still located in Stoke On Trent in 1911?

Many thanks for all your input ......... richard
Title: Re: Alice Davies -
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 15 September 18 06:19 BST (UK)
Are they still located in Stoke On Trent in 1911?

Many thanks for all your input ......... richard

This will be them on the 1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW78-66Q

At Fenton, Staffordshire.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Alice Davies -
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 15 September 18 06:31 BST (UK)
Williamís death?

Davis William 47 Stoke T. Deaths Sep 1894 6b 89

Jamjar
Title: Re: Alice Davies -
Post by: Jackarmy1 on Saturday 15 September 18 06:56 BST (UK)
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