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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: jmp on Wednesday 19 September 18 00:58 BST (UK)
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Hi all,
Now this is a real newby question - sorry!. I am familiar with FH research in England and Wales and also to some extent Scotland but have just been asked to help someone with a family tree which has Irish Ancestors. I have looked through the stickies and am just getting more and more confused ???
Now I appreciate that the records are not as complete as England and Wales but what is really confusing me is which websites I would need to use for
a) looking at the 1901 and 1911 Censuses - are the websites different for Northern Ireland and the Republic?
b) BMD certificates similarly are there different websites to use dependent on which part of Ireland you are looking?
c) Parish records. I see some seem to be on FindMyPast but is there anywhere else to search?
d) Griffiths valuations.
and anything else you think might be helpful.
Once I can get a handle on where I need to look I might be able to make a start but until then...... ::)
Thankyou for your patience
Jackie :D
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http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/ covers all of Ireland 1901 and 1911
BMD certificates similarly are there different websites to use dependent on which part of Ireland you are looking? No...not until 1921!
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-civil-records-are-on-line
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Parish records. I see some seem to be on FindMyPast but is there anywhere else to search?
Depends on Religion!
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There is no need to say Sorry for asking sensible questions!
Forget about what you don't know... start with what you do know!!
For example... Who are you looking for on 1911 Census? Location? Just put Surname and County, then search...see if you can find them!!
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Thankyou Hallmark that is soooo helpful. I kept feeling I was going around in circles!
Cheers
Jackie ;)
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You seem to enjoy researching so why not post someone's name/age etc for Census to get you started??
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OK... I don't know who you are looking for but this is the type of thing you can try if you were looking for a Marriage for John Smith around 1880.
So you can change it to someone you are looking for, years etc after 1845 if not RC, 1864 if RC
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
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Take a look at Irish Toolkit https://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com for "Free Irish Genealogy Advice, Tools and Resources".
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Some other useful ones:
About Catholic Registers at the NLI
https://registers.nli.ie/about
Tracing Irish Ancestors Online
https://timeline.ie/tracing-irish-ancestors-online
SWilson.Info
https://www.swilson.info/intro.php
IreAtlas Townland Database
www.thecore.com/seanruad
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Thank you all for that very useful information.
At the moment I am waiting for my friend to get her information together but she told me she didn't know whether it was the Republic or Northern Ireland where her ancestors came from, so I thought I would get ahead of the game by looking at the websites and at that point became confused as to which ones covered which areas. ???
You have all been very helpful in lessening that confusion and added some that I had not come across as well.
Thank you all very much and I love a challenge :D
Jackie
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At the moment I am waiting for my friend to get her information together but she told me she didn't know whether it was the Republic or Northern Ireland where her ancestors came from, so I thought I would get ahead of the game by looking at the websites and at that point became confused as to which ones covered which areas. ???
You have all been very helpful in lessening that confusion and added some that I had not come across as well.
It was just Ireland before 1921. The whole country was then part of the UK.
NB The State of Northern Ireland contains only 6 of 9 Ulster counties.
Irish Toolkit has a section for Norther Ireland. It also has a list of FH and local history societies.
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https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp search ALL Ireland up to 1921
I posted an example of just putting in basic information and searching!
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Census is where to start! If you know County
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Yes thank you Maiden Stone. I am aware of the division in 1921 but as I don't know when her ancestors came over here ( before/ after 1921) I thought I had better cover all bases ;)
Thank you Hallmark for that link too :)
I reckon I will probably be back here with more questions once I get going :)
Jackie
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Griffith's Valuation, all Ireland
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/
Tithe Applotment Books, all Ireland
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/index.jsp
Public Record Office of Northern Ireland
lots of stuff, my favorite is the Valuation Revision Books = followup to Griffith's after 1865
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/information-and-services/public-record-office-northern-ireland-proni/search-archives-online
Births, marriages, deaths, Northern Ireland after 1922
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/search-gronis-online-records
and find a favorite way/website to find Irish placenames. I have a lot of them bookmarked, but end up googling for them every time.
https://www.johngrenham.com/places/
Registration Districts by County
https://www.swilson.info/regdistbyco.php
Townland search
https://www.swilson.info/db/townlanddbs.php
the main problem with placenames is that there are so many variations of spelling. if you can't read the writing on a record, there is a board on rootschat to post the image on for help. If I can make out some of the name, I usually google for "County X townlands" then use my browser to search for the few letters in a row that I can read.
The two top hits are usually,
https://www.townlands.ie/ and the Wikipedia list of townlands.
for example:
https://www.townlands.ie/galway/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_townlands_of_County_Galway
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Do you know of someone who married in Ireland before 1921?
If so, https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp and just put Name in and Year Range... then Search!
Look at picture I posted.... Name Year Range and tick Marriages box
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp is your starting point/website
then secondly
Census website
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Thank you Oldohiohome for those links too and to Hallmark as well. I am browsing all these great websites as I go along ;D ;D Will keep me entertained for a while whilst I wait for the information
Thanks again everyone :D
Jackie
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Not much you can do until you have names, approx dates etc....
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True Hallmark but you have all been wonderful in setting out where to start when I get them ;D ;D
Thank you to everyone again
Jackie