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Title: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Friday 21 September 18 10:53 BST (UK)
The above was the 1st born daughter of Albert William Daniel Franklin(1898-1968) and Nelly nee Gatty(1899-1995); at 1939 she was living at Merton and Morden, Surrey and marriage name recorded as later Banks. Found marriage to Mark L Banks(b 15 Nov 1920 London, England) Q3 1940 at Surrey Mid Eastern.
According to a tree on Anc Gladys passed away 11 Jun 1976 at Windsor, Ontario apparently with a change of name to  Glenys Leguille!
Her sister Jean Ivy Franklin b 1930 was in Canada 20 Nov 1948 and crossed the border at Detroit to visit an aunt Amy Parminder in Michigan, her departure contact was recorded as sister Glenys Carley of 383 Church St, Windsor, Ontario? I can find no other sister of hers named Glenys so wonder what happened after Gladys's marriage in 1940?
Cr
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 21 September 18 11:11 BST (UK)
Canada Voters List 1963 - Arthur Leguille (fac worker) and Glenys Leguille - Essex East. Ontario

Canada Voters List 1972 does show a Glenys Leguille (power sewing) with an Arthur Leguille (trucker) RR2 Belle River Windsor Ontario.

Sandra
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 21 September 18 11:17 BST (UK)

There was a Gladys Carley at 583 Church Street Windsor in 1949 - husband Stanley Carley (customs officer)

Canada Voters List 1957 shows Stanley Carley (Salesman) with Glenys Carley - RR1 Belle River Essex East Ontario.

Sandra
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 21 September 18 11:21 BST (UK)
St Simon and St Jude Roman Catholic Cemetery, Essex County Ontario.
Belle River, Essex County, Ontario.

Stanley Carley - 1912 - 1969

http://geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/1076463

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/178234872

Sandra

Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: Gadget on Friday 21 September 18 11:38 BST (UK)
This might be relevant:

US Social Security Application and Claims index 1936-2007

Claimant - Glyniss Franklin
Spouse -  Mark Banks
Child - Roy Stuart Banks

Gadget
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: Gadget on Friday 21 September 18 11:43 BST (UK)
In the Note, it has Roy born 12 August 1941, Hornsey, Middlesex, UK

Married 1966 and then a date of 25 May 1999.

Add - records his death as 8 May 1999, Michigan.
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 21 September 18 11:44 BST (UK)

U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 - Roy Stuart Banks - 12 August 1941 - passed away 8 May 1999 - ) SSN issued Michigan (1966)

Sandra
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: Christine53 on Friday 21 September 18 11:45 BST (UK)
US Social Security Applications and Claims Index:

Mark Banks
spouse Glyniss Franklin
child Roy Stuart  Banks born 12 Aug 1941 Hornsey Middx died 8 May 1999
buried Our Lady Queen of Heaven Cemetery , Fort Lauderdale , Florida

Marks Banks 37 of 246 Langham Road, N15
Amelia M Banks 30
Roy S Banks 8
dep 23 Nov 1949 London for Sydney

Might indicate a divorce ?
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: Gadget on Friday 21 September 18 11:45 BST (UK)
Findagrave:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/14646133
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 21 September 18 11:45 BST (UK)
FIND A GRAVE

Roy Stuart Banks - 1941 - 1999

Our Lady Queen of Heaven Cemetery Fort Lauderdale, Broward County, Florida.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/14646133

Sandra

Also a Broward Florida marriage 28 November 1982 - Certificate 095297

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VJHH-3D1
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: Gadget on Friday 21 September 18 11:47 BST (UK)

FIND A GRAVE

Roy Stuart Banks - 1941 - 1999

Our Lady Queen of Heaven Cemetery Fort Lauderdale, Broward County, Florida.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/14646133

Sandra

Already posted:

Findagrave:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/14646133

Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: Gadget on Friday 21 September 18 11:48 BST (UK)
I think we're all looking at the same records  ;D
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 21 September 18 11:49 BST (UK)


and posting at the same time ....................... ::)
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 21 September 18 11:52 BST (UK)
Fremantle, Western Australia, Passenger Lists, 1897-1963 - Roy Stuart Banks born 1941 London - 8 years old  arriving Freemantle 22 December 1949 - also travelling Mark Leonard and Amelia Matilda Banks. Goint to 7 Hillcrest Avenue Epping NSW.

Sandra
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: Christine53 on Friday 21 September 18 12:04 BST (UK)
Glenys Banks 33 sewing machinist
arrived London ( going to 1 Lorrimer Square SE 17 )
7 May 1954 from Quebec SS Samaria

departed Southampton 25 June 1954 SS Scythia to Quebec ( now described as housewife )
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 21 September 18 12:09 BST (UK)
Mark Leonard Banks - 13 May 1912 London - aged 36 years crossed the border Canada to the USA - arriving Niagara Falls, New York on the 23 June 1948 - occupation mechanic - named his cousin Hetty Mneill 12 Austin Avenue as his departure contact - had been residing 27 Haig Avenue Toronto. Transit to England via New York. Had previously arrived Halifax Nova Scotia - 22 March 1948 - on the Aquitania.

On the UK outward journey 22 March 1948 - Mark Banks is travelling alone.

Sandra
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: Christine53 on Friday 21 September 18 12:36 BST (UK)
Amelia M Banks 29 of 246 Langham Road Tottenham N15 ( same address as 1949 departure to Sydney )
Roy Banks 6
intending to reside in Canada
dep Southampton 27 July 1948
destination Halifax, NS
SS Aquitania

Edit : Hilda 17 and Jean Franklin 18 from Walworth on same sailing - is this Jean Ivy Franklin as in original post.
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Friday 21 September 18 13:42 BST (UK)
Thank you all for your superb research. Seems a bizarre affair. I found another record that has Mark emigrating to Canada 4 May 1930 with the NABC to do farming. So presumably at some stage he married Amelia M after leaving Gladys/Glenys and emigrated to Australia? Then his son Roy moved back to the USA?
Is there a marriage for Gladys in Canada/USA?
Cr
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 21 September 18 16:39 BST (UK)
Privacy laws are strict in Canada - no marriages in the time frame you would require. Nothing to suggest she was in the USA.

Glenys Leguille was buried Heavenly Rest Cemetery Monday 14 June 1976.

Just noticed the ancestry tree and the marriage date given was 15 May 1940 which obviously cannot be correct.

Arthur Leguille (machinist) showed on Canada Voters List 1949 with a wife Annie (saleslady) Church Street East West. Ontario.

Canada Voters List 1957 - Arthur Leguille (Ford) and Annie Leguille - Edison Essex West.

Sandra
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: RunKitty on Friday 21 September 18 17:01 BST (UK)
There is an obituary in the Windsor Star newspaper for Glenys Leguille..


http://projects.windsorpubliclibrary.com/digi/obits/results.php?lname=leguille&fname=glenys&maiden=&spouse=&m1=0&y1=0&m2=0&y2=0&lim=25&search=Search

The Google news archive has the Windsor Star newspaper.  I am trying to view the paper from the right day, but I can only get to page 14 - until it says "loading" and I see blank pages :'(.  Perhaps if you wait a while, you might be able to see the paper and find the obit.

If not - you can always ask the Windsor Public library.

RK
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: RunKitty on Friday 21 September 18 17:03 BST (UK)
Arthur's obit is also in the paper.  Here is the information.  Looks like he died in 1996

http://projects.windsorpubliclibrary.com/digi/obits/results.php?lname=leguille&fname=arthur&maiden=&spouse=&m1=0&y1=0&m2=0&y2=0&lim=25&search=Search

RK
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: Gadget on Friday 21 September 18 17:43 BST (UK)
The tree has a copy of Glenys Leguille's funeral booklet.

I can't put a snip here but it says born 15th November 1920, London, England. Died Windsor, Ont, June 11 1976.

I've not checked to see if this info has been posted.


Gadget

Added - same tree has the correct parents (from birth, etc. records) and also lists 7 sibling.
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: RunKitty on Friday 21 September 18 18:54 BST (UK)
I was finally able to find the obit in the 11 June 1976 edition of the Windsor Star on Google News Archive. You probably can too... It is on page/image 32. 

It says that Glenys Leguille, 55 years old, died June 11 1976.  Her address had been 1241 Lake Shore Park, Belle River.  Beloved wife of Arthur.  Daughter of Mrs Franklin, London, England.  Sister of Mrs Peter Smeed (Jean) England; Mrs W* Winans (H*), Garden City Michigan; Mrs Fred Flaherty (Annie), Windsor.  Interment Heavenly Rest Cemetery.

RK

Modified...to remove full names of sister and husband from Michigan.  She and her husband may still be living (see obit for sister Annie below)
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: RunKitty on Friday 21 September 18 18:56 BST (UK)
Here is Annie (Franklin) Flaherty.  Her death notice was in the Windsor Star on Nov 8 2014

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/windsorstar/obituary.aspx?pid=173095014

RK
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: Gadget on Friday 21 September 18 19:30 BST (UK)
Those sibling names match with the bmds  :)
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 21 September 18 20:11 BST (UK)
I was finally able to find the obit in the 11 June 1976 edition of the Windsor Star on Google News Archive. You probably can too... It is on page/image 32. 

It says that Glenys Leguille, 55 years old, died June 11 1976.  Her address had been 1241 Lake Shore Park, Belle River.  Beloved wife of Arthur.  Daughter of Mrs Franklin, London, England.  Sister of Mrs Peter Smeed (Jean) England; Mrs W* Winans (H*), Garden City Michigan; Mrs Fred Flaherty (Annie), Windsor.  Interment Heavenly Rest Cemetery.

RK

Modified...to remove full names of sister and husband from Michigan.  She and her husband may still be living (see obit for sister Annie below)

Well done RK - you Little Star.................

Cheers
Sandra

Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: RunKitty on Friday 21 September 18 23:06 BST (UK)
 :) :) :)

Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Saturday 22 September 18 09:59 BST (UK)
Thank you one and all for your superb research once again. However you've left me with more questions now about her siblings.
I found a marriage for H and W Winans in 1952 at Manhattan, USA but can find no records about him.
The obit for Annie shows that her husband passed away before her but that has left me nonplussed as I thought she married in England in 1948 and he passed away there, obviously this isn't the case. So I'll have to rewrite his bio. Again I can find no emigration records for Annie and Fred?
Cr  ???
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 22 September 18 11:13 BST (UK)

Obituary for Patrick Flaherty - with photograph   (son of Annie and deceased Frederick Flaherty ) - 13 December 1955 - 1 December 2011

https://obittree.com/obituary/ca/ontario/windsor/families-first-funeral-home--tribute-centre/patrick-flaherty/1044867/

Sandra
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 22 September 18 11:16 BST (UK)


Fredrick Flaherty - March 2010

https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/frederick-flaherty-obituary?pid=1000000139874993

Sandra
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 22 September 18 11:23 BST (UK)
Son of Annie and Frederick Flaherty.

Sean C Flaherty - 21 September 1960 - 16 December 1960

http://geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/619421

Sandra
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Sunday 23 September 18 09:25 BST (UK)
Thank you Sandra for your further superb research, now I wonder if you can find Frederick Flaherty's dob and place; I guess they must've married in the 1950's?
Cr
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 23 September 18 10:56 BST (UK)
I guess they must've married in the 1950's?
Cr

Frederick W Flaherty and Annie Franklin married at Southward - September 1948 - 5d 1501

Frederick W Flaherty was not the one listed born December 1929 - Birkenhead - 8a 658 - mothers maiden name Hempkin.

Sandra
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 23 September 18 12:12 BST (UK)

William Kenneth Winans - 17 July 1932 - 16 December 1992 - Manatee, Florida. Spouse still living.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VVHJ-J64

Kenneth W Winans - William K Winans - 17 July 1932 - Union Twp Lu, Pennsylvania - Father -    Lawrence E Winans - Mother -  Mary Wandel.

Sandra
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 23 September 18 12:13 BST (UK)


1940 Census Union, Luzerne, Pennsylvania.

Lawrence Winans 39 Mary Winans   39
Lawrence Winans 19 Majorie Winans   15
Myrtle Winans   13 Kenneth Winans   7

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQ77-YBY

Sandra
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Sunday 23 September 18 12:44 BST (UK)
Thank you Sandra, I guess you meant Southwark not Southward for Annie's marriage? Perhaps he was b 1919 Holborn? Pity there isn't a proper obituary for him giving more details.
Thank you also for Winans details.
Cr
Title: Re: Gladys V E Franklin b 15 Nov 1920 Southwark, England
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 23 September 18 12:53 BST (UK)


lol.  Guess I did.  ;)

Sandra