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Title: Allan Leslie GATLAND- Looking for descendants.......
Post by: minniehaha on Tuesday 25 September 18 04:38 BST (UK)
I have recently acquired some loose pages from an old autograph book, a few dated 1917, and rather than destroy them, would like to hand them on to any interested descendants.

One consists of a rather nice pen & ink drawing entitled "The Sky Pilot" showing a vicar/priest on horseback. Dated 1917, in capital letters it gives the name of ENGR. LIEUT. A. LESLIE GATLAND, R. N.

"H. M. S. MALAYA"

This is possibly his death:

1954/34928   Gatland   Allan Leslie   68Y

Any family tree websites which lead to contacting descendants would be very helpful.


Minniehaha.

 
Title: Re: Allan Leslie GATLAND- Looking for descendants.......
Post by: mckha489 on Tuesday 25 September 18 05:17 BST (UK)
Hi, I've sent a message to the most likely looking tree. (the one that doesn't have links to other trees) so again, hopefully the right one.
No doubt you will make them prove descendancy  ;D
Title: Re: Allan Leslie GATLAND- Looking for descendants.......
Post by: minniehaha on Tuesday 25 September 18 05:26 BST (UK)
Thanks Mckha489........ :)


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Allan Leslie GATLAND- Looking for descendants.......
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 28 September 18 02:14 BST (UK)
Person I messaged says no relation and he knows of no descendants.  Do you want me to try the other trees or have you already found a home for it.
Title: Re: Allan Leslie GATLAND- Looking for descendants.......
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 28 September 18 02:44 BST (UK)
Oh yes please Mckha489, it would be great if you could do that....... :)


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Allan Leslie GATLAND- Looking for descendants.......
Post by: Jamjar on Friday 28 September 18 04:51 BST (UK)
I have recently acquired some loose pages from an old autograph book, a few dated 1917, and rather than destroy them, would like to hand them on to any interested descendants.

One consists of a rather nice pen & ink drawing entitled "The Sky Pilot" showing a vicar/priest on horseback. Dated 1917, in capital letters it gives the name of ENGR. LIEUT. A. LESLIE GATLAND, R. N.

"H. M. S. MALAYA"

This is possibly his death:

1954/34928   Gatland   Allan Leslie   68Y

Any family tree websites which lead to contacting descendants would be very helpful.


Minniehaha.

Appears he was lost at sea when the HMS Avenger was torpedoed in 1917:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/FS19170825.2.28?items_per_page=100&phrase=2&query=Leslie+gatland&sort_by=byDA

Jamjar

Added: Mm, or were they rescued?

He was safe and father was E.J. Gatland:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19170621.2.19?items_per_page=100&phrase=2&query=Leslie+gatland&sort_by=byDA
Title: Re: Allan Leslie GATLAND- Looking for descendants.......
Post by: Jamjar on Friday 28 September 18 04:54 BST (UK)
Gatland’s in Onehunga: https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/cemeteries/Pages/find-burial-cremation.aspx

Jamjar
Title: Re: Allan Leslie GATLAND- Looking for descendants.......
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 28 September 18 05:06 BST (UK)
Hi Jamjar,

Following on from the death registration information put up in first post, here are the cemetery details:

Burial record for Allan Leslie Gatland
Date of birth
Unknown

Occupation
Engineer

Date of death
4 October 1954

Age at death
68 years

Gender
Male

Region
West

Cemetery name
Waikumete Cemetery

Remains type
Ash

Date of cremation
6 October 1954

Funeral director
C H Barker Ltd


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Allan Leslie GATLAND- Looking for descendants.......
Post by: Jamjar on Friday 28 September 18 05:07 BST (UK)
Father and mother:

1882/258 Laura Maria Laver to Edward John Gatland

Both at same cemetery as son.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Allan Leslie GATLAND- Looking for descendants.......
Post by: Jamjar on Friday 28 September 18 05:12 BST (UK)
Births:

1883/19869 Gatland Arthur Raglan parents Laura Maria and Edward John
1886/4749 Gatland Allan Leslie parents Laura Maria and Edward John
1894/2314 Gatland Howard Charles parents Laura Maria and Edward John

All same cemetery.

Jamjar

Title: Re: Allan Leslie GATLAND- Looking for descendants.......
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 28 September 18 05:18 BST (UK)
I"ve sent a message to other tree owner, but it says he hasn't been on for over a year so....

Marriage

GATLAND
ALLAN LESLIE
DUNCAN
FANNY RODGER
1919
644/21 46
Govan  (Glasgow Scotland)
Title: Re: Allan Leslie GATLAND- Looking for descendants.......
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 28 September 18 05:23 BST (UK)
11 Sep 1923
Alan Leslie GATLAND, Engineer 38
Fanny R 33
Edward James 3
Alan Frederick 2

arrive in Southampton. All going to  175 West George Street, Glasgow
Title: Re: Allan Leslie GATLAND- Looking for descendants.......
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 28 September 18 05:27 BST (UK)
4 Sep 1925

Fanny Rodger GATLAND  and THREE sons embark for NZ   
extra son is Duncan age 1

poss birth?   
GATLAND
DUNCAN
M
1924
573/1 2001
Paisley
Title: Re: Allan Leslie GATLAND- Looking for descendants.......
Post by: Jamjar on Friday 28 September 18 05:27 BST (UK)
Fanny and children arriving NZ from Canada:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DRY7-DLZ?i=34&cc=1609792

Jamjar
Title: Re: Allan Leslie GATLAND- Looking for descendants.......
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 28 September 18 05:30 BST (UK)
Tree I am looking at has 

Edward James b 21 Oct 1920
Allan Frederick b 19 Mar 1922 Scotland
Duncan 5 Dec 1924, Scotland



Title: Re: Allan Leslie GATLAND- Looking for descendants.......
Post by: Jamjar on Friday 28 September 18 05:31 BST (UK)
11 Sep 1923
Alan Leslie GATLAND, Engineer 38
Fanny R 33
Edward James 3
Alan Frederick 2

arrive in Southampton. All going to  175 West George Street, Glasgow

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-65K9-XX5?i=8&cc=1609792

Jamjar
Title: Re: Allan Leslie GATLAND- Looking for descendants.......
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 28 September 18 05:34 BST (UK)
1963 Duncan is farming Mangakino, has wife Nettie M.

death 1993 https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search?Path=querySubmit.m%3fReportName%3dDeathSearch%26recordsPP%3d30#SearchResults
Title: Re: Allan Leslie GATLAND- Looking for descendants.......
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 28 September 18 05:34 BST (UK)
Wife's death:

1973/49007   Gatland   Fanny Rodger   15 July 1890

But where?

Thank you Jamjar & Mckha489 for your input.

Might have to try & climb up the family tree for this one.........


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Allan Leslie GATLAND- Looking for descendants.......
Post by: Jamjar on Friday 28 September 18 05:36 BST (UK)
Deaths:

1973/49007 Gatland Fanny Rodger 15 July 1890

1983/40859 Gatland Allan Frederick 1 March 1922

Jamjar
Title: Re: Allan Leslie GATLAND- Looking for descendants.......
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 28 September 18 05:37 BST (UK)
1978
Duncan and Nettie both at Whakamaru, farming and there is someone who is presumably a son. PMing you his name
Title: Re: Allan Leslie GATLAND- Looking for descendants.......
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 28 September 18 05:45 BST (UK)
Allan Frederick died 1983
1983/40859   Gatland   Allan Frederick   1 March 1922

wife (from Electoral Rolls)  Dorothy Hester....
she died 2014

2014/4913   Gatland   Dorothy Hester   31 October 1928   

is her death notice available on line?
Title: Re: Allan Leslie GATLAND- Looking for descendants.......
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 28 September 18 06:28 BST (UK)
from electoral roll
Edward James GATLAND's wife is Kathleen Mary Odlin 

from BDMs she died  2014/8073   Gatland   Kathleen Mary Odlin O'Connor   26 August 1926

Edward James died
2000/8075   Gatland   Edward James   21 October 1920
Title: Re: Allan Leslie GATLAND- Looking for descendants.......
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 28 September 18 07:00 BST (UK)
death of Edward John in 1941 https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19410621.2.110

three sons - we have one of  them  [Moderator edit: name removed, possibly living]
10 grandsons - we have just three of them   [Possibly living]
6 great grandsons  - one of them  as per PM  who I suspect is not the one in the death notice as first shows in electoral roll 1978

and 1 great grand daughter
Title: Re: Allan Leslie GATLAND- Looking for descendants.......
Post by: tagnet on Monday 04 November 19 06:42 GMT (UK)
Hi  minniehaha Allan Leslie Gatland is my grandfather and was marine engineer in the Royal Navy during WW1. My father is the farmer identified by your research helper. If you still have the pages of the autograph book I would love to have them. My mother and brothers still living.
Title: Re: Allan Leslie GATLAND- Looking for descendants.......
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 04 November 19 07:00 GMT (UK)
Hello tagnet,

Welcome to Rootschat. I wish I could fulfil your request but I am very sorry, I no longer have the autograph book.  :(

Minniehaha.