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Title: Emily Jane Amelia BUTLER ne้ BROTHERS
Post by: Indaloman on Thursday 27 September 18 15:11 BST (UK)
I am trying to find out when she migrated to New Zealand. She was married to Arthur Henry BUTLER, she was born in 1911 in West Ham Essex and died at Purewa Aukland son time in 1994, any info appreciated
Title: Re: Emily Jane Amelia BUTLER ne้ BROTHERS
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 27 September 18 15:18 BST (UK)
She married in the UK in 1938 so after then
Marriages Jun 1938   
Brothers    Emily J A   
Butler    Arthur H   
W.Ham    4a   16
Title: Re: Emily Jane Amelia BUTLER ne้ BROTHERS
Post by: JJen on Thursday 27 September 18 15:36 BST (UK)
Naturalisation -

Emily Jane Agnes Butler
Birth Date - 3 Dec 1910
Age - 62
Birth Place - West Ham, London
Naturalisation - 15 Jun 1973
Certificate Reg - 214
Register Page No - 11

Still in the UK in 1939.

The Butlers are in New Zealand in 1954 - source New Zealand Electoral Roll.

JJ
Title: Re: Emily Jane Amelia BUTLER ne้ BROTHERS
Post by: Janette on Thursday 27 September 18 20:47 BST (UK)
Her death from NZ BDM's

1994/52473   Butler    Emily Jane Agnes    born 3 December 1911

The exact date of death was 24/10/1994

I don't see her in the Purewa cemetery database

Purewa is more associated with the cemetery rather than an area in Auckland

Electoral rolls

Emily Jane Agnes Butler    1954    New Plymouth    Taranaki    
Emily Jane Agnes Butler    1957    New Plymouth    Taranaki    
Emily Jane Agnes Butler    1963    Onehunga    Auckland    
Emily Jane Anges Butler    1981    Onehunga    Auckland

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Emily Jane Amelia BUTLER ne้ BROTHERS
Post by: Janette on Thursday 27 September 18 20:56 BST (UK)
It looks like Arthur was cremated at Purewa

Burial & Cremation Details

Surname   BUTLER
First Names   Arthur Henry
Age   80 Years
Gender   Male
Date of Death   26 Jun 1984
Religion   Salvation Army
Serial No   47969
Date of Service and/or Interment   28 Jun 1984
Type Of Service   
Funeral Director   C H Barker Simplicity Funerals, 725 Mt Albert Road, Royal Oak, PO Box 24464, Royal Oak, AUCKLAND 1023
Ashes Disposal   Returned
Book Of Remembrance   No

FindMyPast gives his address as 109 Mt Smart Road, Onehunga, Auckland

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Emily Jane Amelia BUTLER ne้ BROTHERS
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Thursday 27 September 18 21:23 BST (UK)

I don't see her in the Purewa cemetery database

Cheers Janette

Same here, the death notice might throw up a clue where she is, speculation only ....  wondering if she was cremated at either of the two that do their own cremations? What do you think Janette?


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Emily Jane Amelia BUTLER ne้ BROTHERS
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Thursday 27 September 18 21:42 BST (UK)

died at Purewa Aukland son time in 1994, any info appreciated


How do you know this was the exact place? 

Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Emily Jane Amelia BUTLER ne้ BROTHERS
Post by: Janette on Thursday 27 September 18 21:55 BST (UK)

Same here, the death notice might throw up a clue where she is, speculation only ....  wondering if she was cremated at either of the two that do their own cremations? What do you think Janette?


Cheers
KHP

I wondered if she went to Mangere,I'm not sure Morrison's and Davis' had their own cremators that far back,

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Emily Jane Amelia BUTLER ne้ BROTHERS
Post by: Janette on Thursday 27 September 18 22:04 BST (UK)
109 Mt Smart Rd was known as Garside Village which was a pensioner village of 40 units run by the local council,

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Emily Jane Amelia BUTLER ne้ BROTHERS
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 28 September 18 01:04 BST (UK)
Made a telephone call....

The lady was cremated @ Mangere on 27.10.1994.

C. H. Barker were the funeral directors.

Looks as if they were taken over by Tilton Opie & Pattinson.

"From Tilton Opie & Pattinson Funerals
'Tilton Opie & Pattinson incorporates CH Barker Funerals in Royal Oak has been serving the people of Onehunga, Mangere Bridge and surrounding areas for over 100 years."

https://topfunerals.co.nz/


Might be worthwhile contacting them to see if they can provide any family information.......


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Emily Jane Amelia BUTLER ne้ BROTHERS
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 28 September 18 02:13 BST (UK)
Just wondering where the name of "Amelia" came from?

Checked GRO birth registrations and this record would seem to confirm that the third Christian name was in fact "Jane". However mother's maiden name should possibly be proof?

Name:                                           Mother's Maiden Surname:
BROTHERS, EMILY  JANE AGNES    SMITH 
GRO Reference: 1911  M Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 165


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Emily Jane Amelia BUTLER ne้ BROTHERS
Post by: Janette on Friday 28 September 18 02:28 BST (UK)
Made a telephone call....

The lady was cremated @ Mangere on 27.10.1994.

C. H. Barker were the funeral directors.

Looks as if they were taken over by Tilton Opie & Pattinson.

"From Tilton Opie & Pattinson Funerals
'Tilton Opie & Pattinson incorporates CH Barker Funerals in Royal Oak has been serving the people of Onehunga, Mangere Bridge and surrounding areas for over 100 years."

https://topfunerals.co.nz/


Might be worthwhile contacting them to see if they can provide any family information.......


Minniehaha.

From memory Sibuns hold Barkers records

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Emily Jane Amelia BUTLER ne้ BROTHERS
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 28 September 18 02:41 BST (UK)
Hi Janette,

I wouldn't know, just going by what is on the website as shown above....... :)


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Emily Jane Amelia BUTLER ne้ BROTHERS
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Friday 28 September 18 03:49 BST (UK)
Same topic from 2014 as this post, so we don't duplicate .... Janette's Reply #8 re Sibuns

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=702103.msg5455452#msg5455452


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Emily Jane Amelia BUTLER ne้ BROTHERS
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 28 September 18 04:43 BST (UK)
Before you put your message up KHP, I already had a call in to Tilton Opie & Pattinson who referred me to C. H. Barker.

Apparently Simplicity Funerals, C. H. Barker & Tilton Opie & Pattinson have become incorporated but meantime the records are held separately.

I was told that they are not in anyway involved with Sibuns.

So in this case, an enquiry should be made of C. H. Barker in respect of the funeral of Mrs. Butler. Records are in their archives.

Not sure if this helps or not?


Minniehaha.

Title: Re: Emily Jane Amelia BUTLER ne้ BROTHERS
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Friday 28 September 18 04:51 BST (UK)

So in this case, an enquiry should be made of C. H. Barker in respect of the funeral of Mrs. Butler. Records are in their archives.

Not sure if this helps or not?


Minniehaha.

You did suggest that in the duplicate post from 2014 that contact should be made, but there was no further contact from Indaloman to your remark or for finding Emily's death at that time the posts were made.

Cheer
KHP
Title: Re: Emily Jane Amelia BUTLER ne้ BROTHERS
Post by: Janette on Friday 28 September 18 05:17 BST (UK)

You did suggest that in the duplicate post from 2014 that contact should be made, but there was no further contact from Indaloman to your remark or for finding Emily's death at that time the posts were made.

Cheer
KHP

I am not sure why we are repeating all this information considering it was all covered in the previous 2014 post,Indaloman if you use the search up the top of this page you can check to see what you have already asked,

Janette
Title: Re: Emily Jane Amelia BUTLER ne้ BROTHERS
Post by: Indaloman on Friday 28 September 18 08:57 BST (UK)
Thank you all so much for the info, she was my wife's aunt. In got the place of death from Ancestry. This info gives me some idea of when she migrated.
Title: Re: Emily Jane Amelia BUTLER ne้ BROTHERS
Post by: Janette on Friday 28 September 18 09:31 BST (UK)
Thank you all so much for the info, she was my wife's aunt. In got the place of death from Ancestry. This info gives me some idea of when she migrated.

We gave you all the same information in 2014,

Cheers Janette