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Title: Alnwick baptism 1798, where to look?
Post by: cristeen on Saturday 29 September 18 15:31 BST (UK)
Having searched through the BTs for Alnwick, they jump from 1797 to 1799. Typically it's 1798 I'd like to see. Any ideas where I could get sight of the original registers or BTs for that year?
Title: Re: Alnwick baptism 1798, where to look?
Post by: nanny jan on Saturday 29 September 18 15:41 BST (UK)
Have you tried FreeReg?

https://www.freereg.org.uk/
Title: Re: Alnwick baptism 1798, where to look?
Post by: cristeen on Saturday 29 September 18 15:50 BST (UK)
Yes, my lady is on there but being somewhat anal about direct lines, I'd like to source a scanned image if possible. Very disappointed that year is missing from the scanned BTs :(
Title: Re: Alnwick baptism 1798, where to look?
Post by: Tickettyboo on Saturday 29 September 18 17:54 BST (UK)
The Alnwick entries on Free Reg were originally done from the BTs. Where there were 'missing years' the info was added as EX (extraction). In the case of Alnwick the extraction came from the IGI. Not ideal, but at the time it was the only way to at least include the names in the database - rather than miss them out completely and mislead people into thinking that they definitely weren't baptised/married/buried there - if that makes sense.

Free Reg is only ever meant to act as a finding aid, in the case of something marked BT, the original can be checked online. For entries marked PR then the original register is the source. For those marked EX the extraction could have come from a printed book or from the IGI.

The LDS do have digital images of Alnwick registers for this time frame, but they can only be viewed at a local history centre (unless you are a church member). If you have an FHC near you they will allow you to use their pcs to see and either download or print the image (depending on the agreement they have with the record holders).

https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/963352?availability=Family%20History%20Library


If you don't have an FHC near you its possible to order a copy from Northumberland Archives, but I'd advise checking the date as without a date it would fall into their category of 'research' and the price goes up dramatically. I'd check against the search in the above link and Durham Records Online as they too have transcriptions for Alnwick for this time frame  if the dates match in 2 independant databases then that's a good sign its the right date :-)

If you give me  name and type of record (baptism/marriage/burial), I should be at our local FHC within the next week or two and could look it up for you if you don't have an FHC near you.

Boo
Title: Re: Alnwick baptism 1798, where to look?
Post by: cristeen on Saturday 29 September 18 18:28 BST (UK)
Thank you Boo
For some reason I have been able to view those records on Family Search, I have since found them on Ancestry too. So excited to be able to view them and then so disappointed that 1798 is missing. I have found all her siblings baptisms. I know the exact dates and parentage details so will contact Northumberland Archives :)
Title: Re: Alnwick baptism 1798, where to look?
Post by: Tickettyboo on Saturday 29 September 18 18:31 BST (UK)
Thank you Boo
For some reason I have been able to view those records on Family Search, I have since found them on Ancestry too. So excited to be able to view them and then so disappointed that 1798 is missing. I have found all her siblings baptisms. I know the exact dates and parentage details so will contact Northumberland Archives :)

Those are the BTs, not the Original Parish Register, the link I gave takes you to the page for what the LDS have for the Original Parish Register. Though the BTs are good, they are still a contemporary copy of the original register.

Boo

Title: Re: Alnwick baptism 1798, where to look?
Post by: 2zpool on Monday 01 October 18 08:26 BST (UK)
What is the name and I will have a look on my Alnwick transcript which covers 1749-1812.  Then you will have a date to go by.  This is a transcript of the parish record not the BT's.  It will have the most information as 1798 is a Barrington Era record.

Janis
Title: Re: Alnwick baptism 1798, where to look?
Post by: cristeen on Monday 01 October 18 13:55 BST (UK)
2zpool, thanks the details I have are
1798 Oct. 4 Maria Theresa born Jan. 7 daughter of Francis Thomas Strother native of this parish by his wife Ann Edis native of Huntingdon.
It would be good to confirm with your records
Title: Re: Alnwick baptism 1798, where to look?
Post by: cristeen on Monday 01 October 18 13:57 BST (UK)


Those are the BTs, not the Original Parish Register, the link I gave takes you to the page for what the LDS have for the Original Parish Register. Though the BTs are good, they are still a contemporary copy of the original register.

Boo
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Doh, think I need to put my brain back in! I had planned to visit my local LDS fro the Berwick Freemens records so will add this to my list.
Title: Re: Alnwick baptism 1798, where to look?
Post by: 2zpool on Monday 01 October 18 14:17 BST (UK)
A few things different and to add

Maria Theresa Strother born 7 Jan [1798] baptised 4 Oct 1798 1st daughter of Frances Thomas Strother, grocer, native of this parish by his wife Anne Edis, native of Huntington. 

This is from a Herbert Maxwell Wood transcript.

Janis
Title: Re: Alnwick baptism 1798, where to look?
Post by: cristeen on Monday 01 October 18 18:25 BST (UK)
Thank you Janis, every little snippet helps when researching in this time period. The details I have are from a PDF of a book written in 1891 about the Strother family. It lists Strother entries from the parish registers so I am trying to clarify the accuracy of these transcripts.
The transcript for Maria's younger brother is:
1803 Aug. 21 Francis Thomas born July 11th 1800 1 st son of Francis Thomas Strother Mercht. Native of West Florida North America son of Thomas Strother Gentleman of Newton by his wife Ann Edis native of Huntingdon.
but the BTs don't include the reference to West Florida, a connection I am currently exploring
Title: Re: Alnwick baptism 1798, where to look?
Post by: 2zpool on Monday 01 October 18 22:10 BST (UK)
My transcripts states he was born West Florida, N. America.

Ann #1 or second daughter was not baptised before her death in Sept 1801 at age 9 weeks?  I am surprised Francis Thomas jr was not baptised the same day as his sister was buried.  He was over a year old then.

Interesting read about the Free and Independent Republic of West Florida (for 74 days in 1810).   Francis Thomas Sr. would have been born around that time of the disputes over boundaries.  Wonder which time frame.  British, French or Spanish rule?

Janis
Title: Re: Alnwick baptism 1798, where to look?
Post by: cristeen on Tuesday 02 October 18 01:32 BST (UK)
Francis Thomas Snr was born about 1772 based on a burial in July 1811, aged 39, his wife lived until 1851. Mobile was in West Florida under British rule from 1763 until 1780 and his father Thomas was a merchant who apparently married out there and had two more children, plus three more back in Alnwick. I have some transcripts and other secondary evidence but I like to flesh out the bones with as much original stuff as possible :)