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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northumberland => Topic started by: Shiny1 on Sunday 30 September 18 13:46 BST (UK)
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Hi All,
I've found a story in a local newspaper (Shields Daily News) which says:
The Lord Chief Justice concluded the civil business of Newcastle Assizes by taking 30 undefended divorce suits.
Joseph John Clout, Green Street, North Shields, applied for a degree nisi on the ground that on returning from France his wife had had a child of which he was not the father.
Can anyone tell me, is it possible to find any more information about this?
I can't find anything else in the newspapers, will there be court paperwork anywhere that I can see or anything similar?
I believe his wife was Ethel Isabelle Hall, a cousin 3 x removed, I'd like to see something else to confirm the story and maybe pad it out?
Thanks for the help,
Michael
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This may help
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/divorce/
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http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C8029375
The N.A. seem to have the records, not digitised (and it could be costly to get them copied, but a quote should be free).
Other than that you can visit to view them yourself.
Boo
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That's brilliant, thank you both very much for the help.
I'm hoping to go to the NA in the new year so I'll add it to the list of things to get.
Thanks again,
Michael
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That's brilliant, thank you both very much for the help.
I'm hoping to go to the NA in the new year so I'll add it to the list of things to get.
Thanks again,
Michael
Apologies if you already know :
Unless you already have a reader's ticket, read the bumf about how to obtain one in advance. You can also pre-order records you want to view, which would maximise the time you can spend actually looking at them.
Boo
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What date is the newspaper you mention?
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http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C8029375
The N.A. seem to have the records, not digitised (and it could be costly to get them copied, but a quote should be free).
The so-called 'quote' is now a non-refundable page check and costs £8.40. After that, the copying costs are per page or image. See here for the process ...
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/record-copying/
It can sometimes be cheaper to engage a professional researcher to visit and photograph the item for you.
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The so-called 'quote' is now a non-refundable page check and costs £8.40. After that, the copying costs are per page or image. See here for the process ...
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/record-copying/
It can sometimes be cheaper to engage a professional researcher to visit and photograph the item for you.
Oh wow Bookbox, that is new since the last time I asked them for a quote (though its been a good while now)
Though, to be fair, I suppose there is a cost involved for someone to hunt out the records and assess the likely cost of copying them.
Fingers crossed they continue with the digitising programme :-)
Boo
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Joseph John Clout, Green Street, North Shields, applied for a degree nisi on the ground that on returning from France his wife had had a child of which he was not the father.[/i]
George H L Clout, born 1st q. 1919, mother's maiden surname Hall :-\
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Thanks again for the help everyone,
RTL the newspaper is dated Fri 13 Jul 1923.
Boo, I managed to get down there a few months ago for the first time (1st time in London for about 15 years), so I have a current readers card. Since my last visit I've found a war diary I want to get a copy of so we are hoping to go there again in the new year.
Bookbox, I didn't know that, I think I'll hang on until I can hopefully get down there again.
JenB, thanks a lot for that.
George is the father of a lady I met with recently because of a mutual WW1 relative. She told me she didn't know who her Grandfather was because her Grandmother refused to talk about him saying he'd run off and left her. This newspaper article I've found puts a slightly different spin on the story but I want to make sure my facts are correct before I tell her the story she's been told for the past 40 odd years isn't quite accurate.
Michael
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Thanks for letting me know the newspaper date. I was in the library when I saw your post so checked the Evening Chronicle to see if there might be more.
Unfortunately, unless I have missed something I couldn't see any mention of the divorce in that paper.
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Thanks very much for looking. Interesting thing I've noticed though, the newspaper story I've found is in 1923 and reads as if it's happening then however the link Boo posted to the NA record has a date of 1921 on it.
I'm not sure what that means but I'm sure I'll find out.
Michael
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Perhaps its the time frame to go from a decree nisi being granted to the grant of a decree absolute?
Just guessing, don't know a great deal about divorce (then or now), but I think back then it was a fairly long and drawn out process.
Though me n him have only been wed for 43 years so you never know if things are going to last :-) I reserve the right to change my mind ;D
Boo