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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Galway => Topic started by: Mr. Tibbs on Tuesday 02 October 18 17:59 BST (UK)
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My great grandfather was Edward LEONARD. He came to the northeast of England sometime before 1866 from Ireland. He married a lady called Sarah FEENEY, ten years his senior on 24 Nov 1866 at St. Mary's Catholic Chapel, Birtley, near Chester le Street, Co. Durham. He stated that he was 19 years of age. Father: John LEONARD, a labourer. Witnesses: Michael HIGGINS and Hannah BURKE. For whatever reason, Edward married again in 1873 to Bridget Ann CORRIGAN (KERRIGAN) in Castle Ward, Northumberland (my great grandmother). With the 1911 census, I discovered that Edward was from Galway and that fits in with the only other information that I have, which may concern Edward's early life.
I have a very brief, not too well written note to my Mother and Grandmother from a cousin Walter in 1924. The address is Gortroe, C/O Corrandulla P.O. That communication ended shortly after when Walter asked my Grandmother and Mother not to write any longer.
Recently, in my searches, I have combed the nli Catholic registers and have found in Annaghdown on 2 Mar 1847 a baptism for what looks like Edward of John Leon'd and Mary Staunton. Witness: Mrs Staunton (It's on page 75). I have also found (I think) in both the 1901 and 1911 Irish census a Mary STAUNTON with a son Walter age 26 and 39 respectively. I have also found in the nli Annaghdown Catholic Registers a marriage on 27 Dec 1856 a marriage between a John STAUNTON and a Mary BURKE. If John STAUNTON and Mary STAUNTON are brother and sister that would make Edward LEONARD and Walter STAUNTON cousins. Am I making too much up? If anyone has any suggestions as to what I can consider fact and where I go from here, I would be so grateful. I've been researching my LEONARD for 12 years now and would love to find out more.
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LINKS??
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If you post the Links to them in 1901, 1911, plus the pages in Registers it saves other having to go looking for them as you have already found them.
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Present day stuff that might be useful sometime....
https://www.yelp.ie/biz/seamus-leonard-corrandulla ??
https://rip.ie/death-notice/patrick-leonard-corrandulla-galway/363049
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Name WALTER STAUNTON
Date of Birth 1871
Group Registration ID 10371426
SR District/Reg Area Galway
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1871/03269/2198168.pdf
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Civil Reg Birth, Marriage and Death results for Staunton of Galway DISTRICT
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mss/
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You can select births or whatever PLUS 1800'S etc
Birth, Marriage and Death results for Leonard of Galway http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mst/
You are better off looking at them for yourself, keep any eye out for witnesses too..... you can look at them at your leisure and return if you make new discoveries as and when you need.
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https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-civil-records-are-on-line
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Good morning Hallmark
That is a truly wonderful start. Thank you. I'll sort out those links and post them. I am so grateful for the links that you have given me.
Pat
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Just to confirm Walter did have a brother Patrick 1869
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01msu/
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03380/2239217.pdf
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Liscananaun/Gortroe/1379401/
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Galway/Liscananaun/Gortroe/511335/
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Yes, if this is my Walter, he did have a brother Patrick. The links that you have given for the 1901 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Liscananaun/Gortroe/1379401/
and the 1911 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Galway/Liscananaun/Gortroe/511335/
are the links that I used.
For the birth of hopefully Edward LEONARD (my great grandfather)although the record is not very clear, the link is: https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000631988#page/1/mode/1up and the page is 57
I must stress that all my deductions hinge on the birth of what I have transcribed as Edward LEONARD son of John LEONARD and Mary STAUNTON. Am I able to print screen the original record here or will it be copywright?
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Is this the page?
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000631988#page/57/mode/1up
where is he on it?
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Sorry, Hallmark. It's page 75 not 57!
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6th. entry down on the left hand page
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Was wondering why I didn't see it.
When you are on any page.... the address bar shows that page number, so one can Copy that and Paste it.
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000631988#page/75/mode/1up
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Thank you. I'll do that. What do you think of the entry? Am I correct or is my wish for it to be Edward and John that clouds my judgement?
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Yes, that's it. In your opinion would you say that what is written is: Edw son of John Leon'd and Mary Stanton (Staunton). Sponsor: Mrs. Staunton?
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Edm or Edw
...son of John Leon'd and Mary Stanton (Staunton). Sponsor: Mrs. Staunton
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Thank you, Hallmark. I think I need to continue for a while,on the assumption that I'm on the right track. I'll check out the helpful links that you have given me and hope that I discover other brothers or sisters of the John LEONARD and the John STAUNTON families; the deaths of all four parents and if indeed Edward's family remained in Gortroe or whether they came to England looking for work. My great grandfather, Edward, was a coalminer; he clearly left Home as a teenager.
I much appreciate your time and thought and hope you won't mind if I contact you again, when I get stuck.
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You have the note to your Mother and Grandmother from a cousin Walter in 1924.... it is him you'll need to chase back in time.
Then via Link I posted try to figure out his Aunts/Uncles!
Start at one end of the chain!!
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OK Hallmark but I'm unsure how to do that. If he was still living with his mother in 1911 at the age of 39/40, I doubt that he married although I will look on the parish registers. Any other suggestions?
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OK Hallmark but I'm unsure how to do that. If he was still living with his mother in 1911 at the age of 39/40, I doubt that he married although I will look on the parish registers. Any other suggestions?
You're going back in time.....
Who is his mother?
Born When?
Her Parents?
etc etc
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Name WALTER STAUNTON
Date of Birth 1871
Group Registration ID 10371426
SR District/Reg Area Galway
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1871/03269/2198168.pdf
Name PATRICK STAUNTON
Date of Birth 1869
Group Registration ID 7834004
SR District/Reg Area Galway
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03380/2239217.pdf
I know Census ages don't match!
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Liscananaun/Gortroe/1379401/
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E.G
He stated that he was 19 years of age. Father: John LEONARD, a labourer. Witnesses: Michael HIGGINS and Hannah BURKE
Walter's mother was a Burke
By studying them at your leisure you should be able to find out how the cousins connect!
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Edward LEONARD. married a lady called Sarah FEENEY, 24 Nov 1866 at St. Mary's Catholic Chapel, Birtley, near Chester le Street, Co. Durham. He stated that he was 19 years of age. Father: John LEONARD, a labourer.....
So, via link I posted, are there other Marriages for children of John LEONARD in 1864/65/66/67/68/69 etc etc??
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As posted
Civil Reg Birth, Marriage and Death results for Staunton of Galway DISTRICT
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mss/
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Birth, Marriage and Death results for Leonard of Galway http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mst/
You are better off looking at them for yourself, keep any eye out for witnesses too..... you can look at them at your leisure and return to them if you make new discoveries as and when you need.
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Yes, thank you. I had already checked the rootschat links that you had given me and have found the deaths of Patrick and Walter STAUNTON 1939 and 1949 respectively. Patrick's daughter Mary Ellen was present at his death and at Walter's as Walter's niece (He did remain a bachelor.). There is also a birth for an Edmund STAUNTON in 1865 but I believe that he died when he is just three years old. Present at his birth was Michael LEONARD who signs his mark to the certificate and describes himself as an "inmate". What does "inmate" mean in this context?
I can find nothing conclusive on this same link for John or Mary LEONARD. I suspect either that they only had one child (Edward) or all of their children were born before 1864. I need to go back further now so will go back to the original parish registers before 1864.
Re Hannah BURKE-the surname is so common in Galway and in Co. Durham that I will leave that until later.
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What I do in your situation is start a PRIVATE tree on Ancestry with sources and see what hints get thrown out for them.
You have Walter who is a cousin! So start with him and then parents, their marriage, chilren, deaths....look for their siblings and who they married!
Then it by bit work backward in time, adding anyone as you go, across the lines and backwards.
You're only going back a very short time...
It depends on where Inmate is written and context!
Organizing them on a PRIVATE tree is the way I'd go!
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;D Yes...typed in a hurry hence spelling errors!!
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Thanks, Hallmark. That's working quite nicely. I've got quite a lot on the STAUNTONs to substantiate and a link with the USA, which may explain American newspapers that my Grandmother used to receive when I was young.
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It should!
I put many down as siblings if I wasn't sure..... via Hints I proved 90%+ were, via shipping records and gravestones etc etc.
Having it PRIVATE meant no one could copy it, so no harm done!
Even proving one person as incorrect helped.