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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northumberland => Topic started by: fred21 on Wednesday 03 October 18 02:28 BST (UK)
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Hi
I am trying to find out further information on the parents on Lawson ARMSTRONG who was bpt. 28 Aug 1720 at All Saints, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
His father was John ARMSTRONG and his mother Jane LAWSON.
The names LAWSON ARMSTRONG have carried on down my family for several generations as both first and middle names.
Would love to be able to find out more about the two people whose last names feature so prominently in my family tree.
Any suggestions would as always be greatly appreciated.
many thanks
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LAWSON ARMSTRONG 1720 - 1782
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He was noted as a gentleman"" Died 04 Dec 1802, age 82 buried 7 Dec 1802 Ulgham, Northumberland
I can find the birth record for Lawson and the ones I think are his siblings such as John 1717, Susanna 1722.
There are also baptisms at St Nicholas Parish Rec and Nonconf ,Newcastle in the same period parents John & Jane
Elizabeth Armstrong was baptised All Saints in 1712 but her parents were John & Elizabeth, so was John married before?
Sadly no marriage for the parents anywhere but a large number of births for both names.
Colin
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Durhamrecordsonline has an entry for a Marriage Bond for a John Armstrong/Jane Lawson marriage 1714 at St Nicholas, Newcastle upon Tyne. I have looked for the Marriage Bond on familysearch but cannot find it nor can I find a record of the marriage.
As the site is pay to view I have not checked details, so don't know exactly what the entry says.
Emeltom
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Here's the bond http://www.rootschat.com/links/01msw/ The top part, in Latin, is terribly blurred.
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Thanks jenB. I didn't think of looking there, I was only looking at the Calendar of Allegations bit.
Emeltom
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There is also a more informative entry if you browse through the data set " Durham Marriage Bonds and Allegations 1594 - 1815". This is browse only - go to image 82 in the marriage abstracts1708 - 1729.
This is what it says
1713/1714
Mch 8 Armstrong John, (no sig), Newcastle,gen
Lawson, Jane, spr (He S Nic NC; She Warkwth dir Salkeld, Tho , NC, gen)
Presumably Warkwth stands for Warkworth. Although it does not of necessity mean that she was born there, it might be worth looking for Lawsons in Warkworth parish.
Also bear in mind the calendar!
I think you should look at the will of George Lawson, esquire of Gloster Hill in the County of Northumberland (Warkworth) probate 16 Oct 1738 - a quick look shows he refers to his nephews John Armstrong and Lawson Armstrong. Was George a brother of Jane?
William
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It is also worth googling "Lawson Gloster Hill Warkworth"
The "top" hit is a a piece about The Township of Gloster Hill and there is quite a bit about George Lawson:
"...before the close of the seventeenth century it was in the possesion of George Lawson,who probably obtained it in a marriage with an heiress of Palfrey. He was a member of a branch of the family of Lawson of Longhirst, which had acquired lands held by the knights of of St John at Ulgham and was a man of business habits, philanthropy and taste. He was a benefactor to the town and parish of Warkworth, to which he gave the clock of the parish church; he also built or rebuilt the market cross and the still existing town's house..."
It goes on to quote an advert from the Newcastle Courant 1732 re the Gloster Hill Estate but was not sold then. " George Lawson died here a widower in 1738 and was buried not at Ulgham with his ancestors but in the church of Warkworth".
There then follows an abstract of his will which mentions nephews John and Lawson Armstrong and an inventory of the goods of Gloster Hill.
I would also suggest looking at Hodgson's History of Northumberland for more about the Lawsons.
William
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Further to the above the will of Robert Lawson of Ulgham Probate November 1697 may help as he refers to his son George Lawson of Gloster Hill and granddaughters Elizabeth and Jane. Rather than being brother was George Lawson Jane's uncle?
William
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Hodgson -History of Northumberland (Part 2 Vol 2 Page 175) has this referring to the Church at Ulgham
"...excepting one solitary inscription on the south wall, to the memory of Robert Lawson, of Ulgham, ,and his family...
Near this place lyeth the body of Mr Robert Lawson of Ulgham, who died the 8th day of August 1697.Of Mrs Elizabeth Lawson, the first wife of the said Robert, who died 21st Feb 1668. Of Mrs Catherine Lawson, his second wife, who died the 18th Jan 1698. Of Jane Lawson, daughter to Robert and Elizabeth, who died the 18th Jan 1663. Of Ralph Lawson, second son to Robert and Eliz., who died 15 Sept 1693. And of Lawson Armstrong, who died 4thDec 1822, aged 82".
William
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I did look at the PRs for All Saints today and the only additional information on the baptism record was that John was an Upholdster. I’ve heard of an Upholder and an Upholsterer - perhaps it’s one of those. One thing I noticed is that, like most records of that time, the mother’s name was not recorded. Where did you get the information from about his mother being Jane Lawson?
Christine
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Wow thanks so much everybody for all your replies. It's given me lots to look at and follow up. The Ulgham link is definitely helpful.
C-SIDE - I actually can't remember where I got the name Jane Lawson from - might have been from someone on Ancestry - I'd have to go back through all my notes to find it.
Certainly the name Lawson made sense since John ARMSTRONG named his son Lawson ARMSTRONG and Lawson wasn't generally a first name.
But yes this could be a red-herring and would need to be confirmed if at all possible though it seems unlikely since her name isn't mentioned with Lawson ARMSTRONG on any records that have yet been found.
John and Jane also had another son also called John who was bpt in 1717. Seems that they only had the 2 children (or at least that have found so far).
If George LAWSON was Jane's brother then going by the wording in his will it seems that perhaps Jane and also maybe John had died by 1738 and George left money in his will for the care of their children Lawson and John.
Definitely more investigation is to be had - as always :)
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Looking at George Lawson's will again it would appear that John Armstrong and Lawson Armstrong were the principal legatees, the executor William Lawson being their trustee.
I also note that he left £500 to his niece Elizabeth Lawson daughter of his late brother Ralph. Ralph died intestate in 1693, predeceasing his father, Robert. Bearing in mind that Robert refers in his will to his granddaughters Elizabeth and Jane, my theory,for what it is worth, is that Jane Lawson was the daughter of Ralph. Perhaps George brought his nieces up after his brother's death.
William
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A baptism on Familysearch at Ulgham, 20 Oct 1692, Janeta daughter of Radulphi Lawson.
Radulphus is Latin for Ralph, so Janeta must be a form of Jane.
Alan.
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It does look like Jane was the daughter of Ralph.
But she is not the Jane mentioned in George's will as it states "to my niece Jane, wife of John Taylor of Amble".
My Jane was married to John ARMSTRONG so this can't be her unless of course she married again or was married before - certainly something to consider.
There is quite a bit of Lawson information in the Ulgham records which definitely helps to fill in the blanks.
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I have seen many boys named after friends or neighbours. Two places predominate. Stanhope, County Durham and North Carolina, USA.
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Marriage bond 6 March 1731/32 - John Taylor of Amble, Gentleman, and Jane Armstrong of Warkworth, Widow. Directed to Warkworth. Bond by John Bell of Newcastle, Gentleman.
Marriage at Warkworth 8 March 1731/32. Johannes Taylor de Amble et Jane Armstrong de Gloster Hill.
Alan.
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You are all so amazing. I'm floored by all the information that you have been able to find. I'm very much a beginning in terms of knowing my way around records etc so this information has all been great.
Now we know that Jane married again and that she is the Jane mentioned in George's will.
I can't thank you all enough for the help.
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It also now gives me yet another led - seems John Armstrong must have died between 1720-1732. Now hunting for his death...