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Title: East Chapel Graveyard location?
Post by: samalexander on Wednesday 03 October 18 12:06 BST (UK)
I wonder if anyone can help, on the death record of a relative of mine in 1852 I see she was buried within “East Chapel Graveyard” does anyone know the location of such a graveyard?

She lived and died in Clarkston.

I’ve attached an section of the record in case you think it may say something else.
Title: Re: East Chapel Graveyard location?
Post by: Skoosh on Wednesday 03 October 18 12:32 BST (UK)
Samuel,  New Monkland kirkyard as a section where folk buried in Chapel Street, Airdrie were exhumed & re-interred there along with their stones. Could this be the East Chapel?

Skoosh.
Title: Re: East Chapel Graveyard location?
Post by: Lodger on Wednesday 03 October 18 18:24 BST (UK)
Some years ago I was asked to contribute a paper to the "Raddle", the journal of the new defunct Monklands Heritage Society. It was entitled "The Churchyards of Airdrie Burgh". I will attempt to attach it here as there is quite a bit on "The Old Chapel". OK, tried and the attachment was too big! I'll cut the part required.
Title: Re: East Chapel Graveyard location?
Post by: Lodger on Wednesday 03 October 18 18:27 BST (UK)
Can someone let me know if this file opens ok?

Samuel, if you tell me the ancestor's name I'll check if any mention of him/her was found.
Title: Re: East Chapel Graveyard location?
Post by: Skoosh on Wednesday 03 October 18 18:34 BST (UK)
File opens fine Lodger, gruesome work!

Skoosh.
Title: Re: East Chapel Graveyard location?
Post by: Lodger on Wednesday 03 October 18 18:39 BST (UK)
Thanks Skoosh, there was a bit of "cut & paste" involved to get this file shortened and I see a blimp in the middle somewhere but, you get the gist I hope.
Title: Re: East Chapel Graveyard location?
Post by: Lodger on Wednesday 03 October 18 18:44 BST (UK)
This is, with luck, an old map of Chapel Street
Title: Re: East Chapel Graveyard location?
Post by: samalexander on Wednesday 03 October 18 18:53 BST (UK)
Can someone let me know if this file opens ok?

Samuel, if you tell me the ancestor's name I'll check if any mention of him/her was found.

Thank you so much! The file opens, just about to have a read. My ancestor's name was Mary Marley, maiden name - Millarkey/Malarkey/Mullarkey (also seen it spelt Larkin) so it could be a bit tricky to find her. She died in 1856 in Clarkston.
Title: Re: East Chapel Graveyard location?
Post by: Lodger on Wednesday 03 October 18 22:26 BST (UK)
Sorry Samuel, no sign of any of these names in the Chapel Street records.
Title: Re: East Chapel Graveyard location?
Post by: bleckie on Thursday 04 October 18 09:26 BST (UK)
Nice work Lodger
Yours Aye
Bruce

Title: Re: East Chapel Graveyard location?
Post by: sancti on Thursday 04 October 18 15:38 BST (UK)
Confirmation of Lodger's artistic talents from NLS Maps  ;D

https://maps.nls.uk/view/74955742

SW on the map
Title: Re: East Chapel Graveyard location?
Post by: Lodger on Thursday 04 October 18 18:12 BST (UK)
Thanks for checking my work Sancti, God forbid I should make a mistake!
Title: Re: East Chapel Graveyard location?
Post by: Forfarian on Thursday 04 October 18 18:42 BST (UK)
At the risk of incurring the opprobrium of those better informed than I am, was the kirk at Clarkston ever referred to as the East Chapel?

Clarkston had been a parish quoad sacra since 1836, 20 years before Mary Mullarkey or Marley died at Clarkston. The kirk was built in 1837, and it has a kirkyard. It may have been the furthest east of any kirk or chapel in the parish of New Monkland.

Why, if there was a parish kirkyard in Clarkston, where Mary lived all her life and died, would she have been taken for burial into the town of Airdrie?
Title: Re: East Chapel Graveyard location?
Post by: Lodger on Thursday 04 October 18 20:00 BST (UK)
2 good questions Forfarian. The only "East Chapel" I ever found in my research into the churchyards of New Monkland was the one on Chapel St, Airdrie. It was erected as a chapel of ease towards the end of the 18th century and a burial ground had been established right at the time of opening. So probably around 50 years before Mary died. Could she have had family interred there?
Clarkston parish was formed, as far as I know, in 1836. The church must have been built a few years after that but I don't know when the churchyard was established. Also, Clarkston would have been given its own parish after the Quad Sacra Act of 1834 and would never have been known as a chapel.

There must have been some connection with the East Chapel for Mary, I wonder where her parents are buried because if they predeceased her they are unlikely to be in Clarkston, unless they died after about 1840-ish?
The East Chapel became the East Parish Church after the Quad Sacra Act but, unsurprisingly, the couthy burgers of airdrie still referred to it, until its demolition, as the Auld Chapel.

I'll try to upload a scan of the Burgh Engineer's record of exhumations from 1934 - 35. If you are ever in the discovery Room at Airdrie Public Library ask to have a look at the original.
Title: Re: East Chapel Graveyard location?
Post by: joemcl on Wednesday 02 September 20 16:20 BST (UK)
Hi folks, not holding my breath but I have various ancestors according to Death Certs, that were buried in the following places Wellwynd graveyard, East Chapel graveyard, Chapel Street Church graveyard and Broomknoll graveyard the dates for these burials are 1858,1866,1868, 1870, 1874 Surnames - Feely,Kevany, Kilday and Shearin (all have had various spellings in different records).
I was wondering does that place them among the people who were exhumed and if so would anyone be able to do a look up to see if any of those surnames were recorded.

Much appreciated, Joe
Title: Re: East Chapel Graveyard location?
Post by: Skoosh on Wednesday 02 September 20 17:04 BST (UK)
The Abbey of Newbattle which owned the Monklands had a chapel & grange by the Kipps burn, from where they administered their property, a road ran from there in East Monkland to Newbattle & much later was the site of a loco depot!

Skoosh.
Title: Re: East Chapel Graveyard location?
Post by: Lodger on Wednesday 02 September 20 17:21 BST (UK)
Hi Joemcl,

Couldn't find any of those names in the MI's I have for the 3 churchyards, sorry.
East Chapel graveyard and Chapel Street Church graveyard refer to the same burial ground.
Title: Re: East Chapel Graveyard location?
Post by: joemcl on Wednesday 02 September 20 18:02 BST (UK)
Thanks for looking Lodger it's much appreciated
Title: Re: East Chapel Graveyard location?
Post by: samalexander on Monday 12 October 20 23:49 BST (UK)
Following up this thread as I just noticed the other replies. Regarding Mary Mularkey or Marley’s connection to the East Chapel Graveyard - I believe the connection was purely by location. The family lived at Rawyards after emigrating from Ireland. She and her children seem to have emigrated together, the first record of them on a Scottish Census is in 1851 at Buttrey’s Row in Rawyards.

Chapel Street is not too far from Rawyards so I can only imagine that this was the connection to the graveyard there. Given that at the time of her death there were no Catholic Burial Grounds in Airdrie (correct me if I’m wrong) that she would’ve been buried in the East Chapel Graveyard due to living nearby. Later generations of her family lived around Chapel Street and the Streets nearby.
Title: Re: East Chapel Graveyard location?
Post by: Lodger on Tuesday 13 October 20 00:27 BST (UK)
St Joseph's Catholic cemetery in Airdrie opened in 1860 (North Lanarkshire Council hold records from that date) perhaps some of Mary's family are there?
Being a Catholic would not have excluded her from being interred in the East Chapel burial ground as it belonged to the parish, the same as the churchyards at Glenmavis and Clarkson did.
She would however, have been refused burial in Wellwynd or Broomknoll churchyards as they weren't "Established Church" burial grounds.
Title: Re: East Chapel Graveyard location?
Post by: samalexander on Tuesday 13 October 20 08:26 BST (UK)
Ah thank you Lodger, I had no idea that Catholic’s were permitted burial in those churchyards after St. Joseph’s opened!

From what I know once St Joseph’s opened up the family and future generations were pretty much all buried there.
Title: Re: East Chapel Graveyard location?
Post by: erin petrie on Sunday 11 July 21 19:43 BST (UK)
Hello Lodger. I was just starting research for a visit next Sept. My GGGrandfather, David Smith, B. 1778 d.1856 is shown in family records as buried in East Chapel Burying Ground. Do you know if his name if found in the records?
Title: Re: East Chapel Graveyard location?
Post by: barbarag15 on Saturday 16 July 22 23:31 BST (UK)
My rellie, Elizabeth Whilles/Douglas/Boyd died at Greenend in February 1855 aged 61.  The death register shows her as Elizabeth Whilles (her maiden surname) so I am not sure what name she would have been buried under, even though both her husbands are shown on the register.  I understand bodies from East Chapel Graveyard were moved and was wondering if there is any mention of Elizabeth in any records.
Thanks.
Title: Re: East Chapel Graveyard location?
Post by: Lodger on Sunday 17 July 22 09:51 BST (UK)
My rellie, Elizabeth Whilles/Douglas/Boyd died at Greenend in February 1855 aged 61.  The death register shows her as Elizabeth Whilles (her maiden surname) so I am not sure what name she would have been buried under, even though both her husbands are shown on the register.  I understand bodies from East Chapel Graveyard were moved and was wondering if there is any mention of Elizabeth in any records.
Thanks.

No sign of her under any of these names in the records I have, sorry.
In the Wellwynd inscriptions there is a Mary Lisle Willis who died 3rd March 1898 aged 66 years, wife of Matthew Peters.  That's the closest to "Whilles" I can find.
Title: Re: East Chapel Graveyard location?
Post by: barbarag15 on Sunday 17 July 22 22:25 BST (UK)
Thanks again Lodger.  It's been a while  :)
Title: Re: East Chapel Graveyard location?
Post by: mosstrooper on Monday 18 July 22 20:06 BST (UK)
Probably nothing to do with your search but Sam Marley was in my class at St Davids School Whiterigg, in the 1940s / 50s. not far from Rawyards, Airdrie and all Mining Communities, we both lived in Plains at the time.

James Kerr.