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Title: Alfred {Lofty} Cooper born 1915
Post by: achooo on Thursday 04 October 18 18:26 BST (UK)
hi any one know any thing of lofty cooper he died  2008 age  93 dont know his parents
i know he was bare nuckle fighter and lived at hindon,
hes buried at wilton and theres another cooper there not his parent called andrew cooper b 1885 d1950.is there any conection
Title: Re: Alfred {Lofty} Cooper born 1915
Post by: PaulineJ on Thursday 04 October 18 18:38 BST (UK)
How would you be certain that Andrew Cooper is not Alfred's Parent?

Hindon is a village and civil parish in Wiltshire, England, about 16 miles (26 km) west of Salisbury and 9.6 miles (15.4 km) south of Warminster (for geographical reference)

There is NO Wiltshire or thereabouts birth reg. How do you know he lived at Hindon?
Title: Re: Alfred {Lofty} Cooper born 1915
Post by: PaulineJ on Thursday 04 October 18 18:45 BST (UK)
This article

https://www.facebook.com/bkbhistory/posts/the-lost-years-of-bkbfor-many-sport-fans-the-noble-art-of-bareknuckle-boxing-end/356282687796791/

Infers that "Lofty" Cooper (of Hampshire) was boxing in the 1920's. Seems unlikely for someone born 1915.
Title: Re: Alfred {Lofty} Cooper born 1915
Post by: achooo on Friday 05 October 18 07:11 BST (UK)
i know he lived at hindon as  years ago my father inlaw new him and visited him there
i went to cemetery and saw graves i know andrews childrens names so i know hes not alfreds father
on stone it says wife louie nee barney.
he was bare nuckle fighter 1940/50s   street fighter
Title: Re: Alfred {Lofty} Cooper born 1915
Post by: PaulineJ on Friday 05 October 18 07:41 BST (UK)
So you could provide us with a family tree for Andrew.
And you could chase down when and where Alfred wed.
presumably there is a death date & age for "Louie"?

And do the early electoral rolls show who was living with Andrew when he died?
Title: Re: Alfred {Lofty} Cooper born 1915
Post by: Annette7 on Friday 05 October 18 10:51 BST (UK)
To at least try and identify Andrew can you tell us the names of his children?   (The only Cooper mmn Barney births I can find are to a couple named James and Mary (married 1916).

Tell us everything shown on the gravestones.

Annette

Title: Re: Alfred {Lofty} Cooper born 1915
Post by: achooo on Saturday 06 October 18 09:25 BST (UK)
I'm enquiring about  Alfred cooper.b 1950.
thank you for your help but i find your attitude offensive.
I'm not very good on laptop thought this was  very good site its like what i would imagine interrogation.thankyou
Title: Re: Alfred {Lofty} Cooper born 1915
Post by: PaulineJ on Saturday 06 October 18 09:44 BST (UK)
Of course it's an interrogation. You have additional information, yet deliberately withhold it.

Just because he DIED in 2008 (not born 1950) doesn't give us any clue to his origins and where he lived before his demise. Even his birth year could be different to what you suggest.
Given there are around 20 people in 1915 born as Alfred (with or without second name) Cooper , which is going to make him "yours"?
If we keep to plain Alfred Cooper, it's still over a dozen if we go to 1915 +/- 1 year.

If you want to associate him with a chap b 1885-ish , then you need to tell us about him, too.

Pauline


Title: Re: Alfred {Lofty} Cooper born 1915
Post by: achooo on Saturday 06 October 18 10:58 BST (UK)
thank you
Title: Re: Alfred {Lofty} Cooper born 1915
Post by: carol8353 on Saturday 06 October 18 15:12 BST (UK)
Before anyone can help you we need to make sure that we have all the facts,that's why additonal questions are asked. If it were a name that is very unusual,that would be easy to research but one like Alfred Cooper is fairly common and we wouldn't want to be giving you incorrect info.