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Title: Opinions Sought on Date please
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 07 October 18 14:06 BST (UK)
Hi...I have an idea when this was taken but would appreciate opinions please. I am between two decades and wondered what others thought.
Thanks for looking.
Carol
Title: Re: Opinions Sought on Date please
Post by: carol8353 on Sunday 07 October 18 14:17 BST (UK)
I'm no good with dating pics,but on my gran's (b 1900) school photo,the little girl in the centre is holding a small blackboard with the school name and date. What a brilliant idea is that?  ;D
Title: Re: Opinions Sought on Date please
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 07 October 18 14:19 BST (UK)
Hi Carol...Yes it is...I have a couple like that too. Shame it's not on this one though.
Carol
Title: Re: Opinions Sought on Date please
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 07 October 18 14:25 BST (UK)
I've seen a couple with clothing like that in the 1930s, Carol, but not sure some boys have a pin behind their ties which suggest 1920s  :-\

I expect Jim might give a better estimate.

Added - those boots would suggest the earlier date!
Title: Re: Opinions Sought on Date please
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 07 October 18 14:29 BST (UK)
Hi Gadget... I was of the same opinion as you. I might ask Jim to take a look...I would like it to be 20s as my Uncle could be on it.
Thanks for your input. Much appreciated.

Added: I'm leaning towards 30s the more I look at it.

Carol
Title: Re: Opinions Sought on Date please
Post by: AJ100 on Sunday 07 October 18 15:06 BST (UK)
I was at school in the 1950's and we all looked very much like that. The relaxed poses indicate a date later than the 30's so I would go for 50's or early 60's.

AJ
Title: Re: Opinions Sought on Date please
Post by: Creasegirl on Sunday 07 October 18 15:14 BST (UK)
Is there a wreath and white lilys in photo.  Maybe taken at end of ww2
Title: Re: Opinions Sought on Date please
Post by: JenB on Sunday 07 October 18 15:15 BST (UK)
I was at school in the 1950's and we all looked very much like that. The relaxed poses indicate a date later than the 30's so I would go for 50's or early 60's.

I think its very much earlier than the 1960's. I don't ever remember seeing boys in the 60's or the 50's wearing the sort of boots the boys at the right-hand end of the front row are wearing!
Title: Re: Opinions Sought on Date please
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 07 October 18 15:33 BST (UK)
Definitely pre WW2. I can remember from late 1940s onwards  :-X

1920s here:

https://picclick.co.uk/Edwardian-1920s-era-Postcard-Group-of-school-boys-382287274976.html#&gid=1&pid=1


Title: Re: Opinions Sought on Date please
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 07 October 18 16:06 BST (UK)
Is there a wreath and white lilys in photo.  Maybe taken at end of ww2

Yes there is a wreath of white lilies but not sure of the significance...peace?

Carol
Title: Re: Opinions Sought on Date please
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 07 October 18 16:08 BST (UK)
I was at school in the 1950's and we all looked very much like that. The relaxed poses indicate a date later than the 30's so I would go for 50's or early 60's.

AJ


I don't think it's as late as that AJ...I think I can see some Knitted ties and I associate those with the 30s but I could be wrong, but thanks for your suggestion.

Carol
Title: Re: Opinions Sought on Date please
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 07 October 18 16:17 BST (UK)
I was at school in the 1950's and we all looked very much like that. The relaxed poses indicate a date later than the 30's so I would go for 50's or early 60's.

I think its very much earlier than the 1960's. I don't ever remember seeing boys in the 60's or the 50's wearing the sort of boots the boys at the right-hand end of the front row are wearing!

Yes Jen I'm inclined to agree with them not being worn in the 60s but I do remember seeing some boys wearing them in the late 50s but not necessarily the same style. One lad I knew would wear "Hob Nailed" boots to school and used to chase me, and kick me in the shins  :-\ but not sure if they were the same style as seen in the school photo.

Carol
Title: Re: Opinions Sought on Date please
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 07 October 18 16:19 BST (UK)
Definitely pre WW2. I can remember from late 1940s onwards  :-X

1920s here:

https://picclick.co.uk/Edwardian-1920s-era-Postcard-Group-of-school-boys-382287274976.html#&gid=1&pid=1

That's a great link Gadget but I think mine is a bit later...but not much. Thanks for your input.
Carol
Title: Re: Opinions Sought on Date please
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 07 October 18 16:55 BST (UK)
Here's a mid-1930s in Edinburgh, Carol

http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/0_g_0/0_groups_and_outings_bellevue_boys_1930-ish.htm#top


Gadget
Title: Re: Opinions Sought on Date please
Post by: jim1 on Sunday 07 October 18 17:20 BST (UK)
I think 1920's is about right. Gadget mentioned the tie pins & although they were worn on & off over a period of time post war-1920's was the most popular.
Is there a stamp box on the back ?
Title: Re: Opinions Sought on Date please
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 07 October 18 18:12 BST (UK)
Aw thanks Jim..that's great....I was between the two decades but wasn't sure which...the stamp box is a plain triangle.
Thanks for your help  :-*
Carol
Title: Re: Opinions Sought on Date please
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 07 October 18 18:13 BST (UK)
Here's a mid-1930s in Edinburgh, Carol

http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/0_g_0/0_groups_and_outings_bellevue_boys_1930-ish.htm#top


Gadget

Thanks for your input G...most helpful  ;)

Carol
Title: Re: Opinions Sought on Date please
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 07 October 18 18:17 BST (UK)
Here's a mid-1930s in Edinburgh, Carol

http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/0_g_0/0_groups_and_outings_bellevue_boys_1930-ish.htm#top


Gadget


Yes...you can tell the difference between this photo and mine...thanks again G.  :)

Carol
Title: Re: Opinions Sought on Date please
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 07 October 18 18:24 BST (UK)
I thought the 1930s one looked a bit too neat and tidy  ;D
Title: Re: Opinions Sought on Date please
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 07 October 18 18:43 BST (UK)
Yes...I noticed that too.

Carol
Title: Re: Opinions Sought on Date please
Post by: Henry7 on Sunday 07 October 18 22:33 BST (UK)
My first secondary-school photo was taken in 1945-6 and we looked very like the boys seen here.  Younger lads (maybe up to around 14) often wore boots, and knitted ties were common until long afterwards.

It all seems very casual - some wearing caps, some not.  I wonder if it could have been taken during WW2?  I would guess either then, or late 1930s.

A pity it's boys - had it been girls it would have been easier to date!

Harry.


Title: Re: Opinions Sought on Date please
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 07 October 18 23:31 BST (UK)
Thanks for your interest Henry but I was originally of the opinion that it would have been taken in the 20s or 30s, however..Gadget has shown images of school photos taken in the 20s and 30s which helped us to arrive at a 20s date which was confirmed by Jim.
The photo was taken in a working class area still recovering from the ravages of war, so there would be a mix of clothing worn and no doubt quite a few hand-hand-me downs.

Carol