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Need some help locating BMD's for this side of my wife's family
On the 1921 Canada Census (Quebec)
I find Napoleon Bolduc age 31 B abt 1890 and Albina Goulet age 27 B abt 1894 ,as she is listed with her M/S so there may not have been a marriage but there are 6 children.
Simone age 9 B abt 1912
Napoleon age 7 B abt 1914
Janette age 6 B abt 1915
Marcelle age 5 B 31 jul 1916 Montreal married Rosario Coulombe 31 jul 1937 my wife's parents I have the baptismal cert from Paroisse Sacre couer de Jesus. which I obtained from another family
member
Lorette age 3 B abt 1918
Lucille age 5 months
There is another 3 sisters Marie Reine, Hugette, Michline and 4 brothers Gerard, Robert, Lucien, and Roger
There are several Napoleon Bolduc's in earlier census's and a Albina age 12 with family in 1911
thanks for any help
Huey1
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Anc tree shows - M Malvina Rollande Simone Bolduc 1912 Quebec married Donat Dagenais born 10 September 1910 - Vendee, Papineau, Laurentides, PQ. Marriage 1935 - Ste-Marguerite-Marie Quebec - is listed in the Drouins Collection.
Baptism - Quebec, Canada, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1968 - M Malvina Rollande Simone Bolduc - St-Eusèbe-de-Verceil -
Sandra
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Joseph Alfred Gerard Bolduc - Sacré-Coeur-de-Jésus - 1923
Sandra
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Marie Eva Jeannette Bolduc - St-Eusèbe-de-Verceil - Montreal - Quebec -
Sandra
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Jeannine Bolduc - Durrand - 10 August 1926 - 26 January 2016 - (with photograph)
https://www.lenecrologue.com/canada/quebec/montreal/montreal/montreal/charles-e-rajotte-inc/mgpL/jeannine-bolduc/avis-de-deces/
Sandra
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On the 1921 census you refer to also shows in the household Philomena Martineau.
In the Sacre Coeur de Jesus cathedral in Montreal there is a baptism for Marie Albina Goulet d/o Louis Goulet and Philomena Martineau 23 Jan 1894.
In the same cathedral on 14 Sep 1911 there is a marriage for Albina Goulet d/o same parents as above to Paul Bolduc s/o Timolas(? ).
In Quebec women used their maiden names. Deaths were recorded in parish records under their maiden name. Although I have found census records where the woman was recorded under her husband's name most used their maiden names on this document as well. In 1921 both Albina and her mother Philomena used their maiden names.
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08 May 1888 at Ste Brigide Montreal Timolas Bolduc s/o Charles Bolduc and ? Roy married Arthemise Richard d/o Isidore Richard and Angelique Forfin(? ).
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Hi
Thx Sandra and cosmac for all your great info, with everyone having multiple first names its a chore finding them .
I don't see Philomine Martineau listed on the 1921 census only Philomine Goulet with Louis and daughter Alexina age 21 so B abt 1900.Albina Goulet was the wife of Napoleon Bolduc and is listed under her m/s age 27 B abt1894 so I am confused about the baptism of Marie Albina Goulet 23 Jan 1894 d/o Louis Goulet and Philomine Martineau , are there 2 Albina's born same year ? I am probably missing something which woudnt be the first time.
On the baptismal notice for Jeannette I looks like Godfather Louis is a brother of Albina I guess as he is listed as an uncle , I have been unable to find anything on the godparent Eva listed as an aunt but she may be on the census under another first name ?
thanks again
huey1
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http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1921&op=img&id=e003105075
1921 census
Philomene Martineau is line 47 - within the household of Napoleon and Albina.
Since this appears to be Albina's mother the baptism of Marie Albina Goulet with parents as stated should be yours.
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Hi cosmic
I see that now on line 47 Philomine with Napoleon and Albina and family so as you say indicates that she would be the mother of Albina and the other Philomine married to Louis Goulet who is mentioned on the Baptismal notice as godparents and uncle and aunt of Marie , Malvina is of course a diff. person maybe a daughter !!
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Hi cosmac
Sorry for the misspelling on the previous post.
As you can see I am still a bit confused to say the least so let me try again and you can let me know if iam on the right track.
Louis Goulet and Philomine Martineau had a daug. Marie Albina Goulet Bapt.23jan1894 ,Albina then married Napoleon Bolduc ,on their first child Marie Malvina bap record it says that Louis and Philomine are her godfather and godmother and also uncle and aunt ,woudnt they be her grandfather and grandmother ?also the Philomine registered with Louis on the 1921 census is 52 and the one listed with Napoleon is 68 .What don't I understand ????
huey1
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Hi cosmic
Sorry once again disregard the uncle and aunt portion of that post ,Louis was named uncle for Marie Eva Janette along with an aunt Eva but again woudnt he be Grandfather
huey1
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Hi there.
I believe Albina had a brother Louis which would make him the uncle to Marie Eva Jeanette.
Mother's name for Timolas Bolduc looks to be Luce Roy.
PB
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The Goulet family in 1901 is resident in Saint Marie Ward in Montreal on 1901 census.
Louis (1855), Philomene (1856), Louis (1883), Jean Baptiste (1884), Marie L. (1880), Odile (1888), Olivia (1892), Albina (1894), Napoleon (1896).
1911 census the family is in the same district of Montreal. On ancestry they are indexed as Boulet.
Louis (1845), Phomomen (1857), Louis (1884), Napoleon (1897), Malvina (1895), Eva (1891).
Marie Eva Goulet was baptized 27 Mar 1890 Sacre Coeur de Jesus.
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Louis Goulet, husband of Philomene Martineau, died 03 Feb 1913 and his burial recorded on the 05 Feb at Basilque Notre-Dame. That would explain why Philomena is living with her daughter Albina in 1921.
Philomena died 30 May 1936 and burial recorded 01 Jun 1936 at same cathedral as Louis'.
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http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/View.jsp?id=119748&highlight=41&desc=1911+Census+of+Canada+page+containing+Eva+Goulet
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At Sacre Coeur de Jesus Albina's siblings marriages
Jean Baptiste Goulet to Angeline Roy or Ray 19 Sep 1905
Eva Goulet to Albert Poitras 18 Sep 1916
Odile Goulet to Thomas Arthur 12 Jun 1905
Louis Goulet to M. Rose de Lima Beaulae (? ) 06 Sep 1920
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Hi
Thanks cosmac for all the info ,quite a difference in dates ,lots of work to do
thx again
huey1
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Marie Lorette Albina Arthemise 20 Sept 1918 baptism
Marie Helene Rhea 10 Sep 1917 baptism
Joseph Napoleon Thimolias 21 Oct 1913 baptism
M. Fleurette Yollande 13 Feb baptism
M. Reine 05 Nov baptism
Marie Alice Micheline 06 Apr Baptism
Will pm the years for the last three as they are more recent.
Is your Hugette actually Fluerette?
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Hi cosmic
once again thanks for your help,WOW !! so many multipule first names my head is spinning !
My wife thought that her aunts name was Hugette but possibly it was Fleurette.
I am still kind of confused with Louis Goulet -Philomine Martineau that I found on the 1921 census with daughter Alexina looks like a diff. family he was age 47 b abt 1874 ,and of course the Philomine with Louis and the Philomine with Napoleon are two diff people, none of the dates that you gave me for the Goulet family for 1901 and 1911 are close to the birth of Louis that I found, still need some direction
huey1
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About Alexina, Louis, and Philomine....
Marie Marguerite Alexina Goulet was born 19 May and baptized 20 May 1900 at Bienville, Parish of St Antoine, County Levis. Parents Louis Goulet and Marie Marcoux.
Louis Goulet, son of minor age of Louis Goulet and Dina Carrier, married Marie Marcoux, daur of minor age of Edourd Marcoux and Elisa Blais 25 Feb 1895, St Charles, Bellechasse County
Dina Carriere is with the family in the 1921 census.
Louis Goulet, widower of Marie Marcoux, married Philomene Prevost, daur of the age of majority of Charles Prevost and deceased Angele Bisson (?....hard to read her last name) 20 Oct 1903, St Charles, Bellechasse County.
So Marie appears to have died at some point. And the Philomine in the 1921 census is apparently not Philomine Martineau.
Louis Goulet is a relatively common Quebec name and so is Philomene. I don't believe this family is related to your Louis Goulet and Philomine Martineau, although there is always the possibilty they could be distantly related. I haven't looked into that possibility.
PB
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I agree entirely with PolarBear. Dina Carriere (maiden name) on the 1921 census is clearly shown as the mother of Louis Goulet although on ancestry her age is indexed as 21 and not the 71 it actually is. Dina Carriere married in St. Charles in 1873 to Louis Goulet and the son of this couple, Louis, was baptized a year later in St. Charles.
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thanks polar bear and cosmac for confirming the Louis ,philomine and alexina confusion on my part
I did see parents of Louis on the census
Can you advise if there are any other online source of BMD's other that Family Search and the Drouin Collection on Ancestry for Quebec ,I have looked at the source's on Rootchat without success
huey1
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The only records available for Quebec in that time frame are parish records for baptisms, marriages, and burials which are on line in the Drouin Collection. Civil registration did not begin in Quebec until 1994 (Yes!).
PB
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Hi
1994 !!! that's almost unbelievable
Would that have anything to do with the power of the Church in Quebec ?
looks like I need a subscription to Ancestry if I want to proceed with other branches of the family
huey1
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Probably had a fair bit to do with the Catholic Church.
Before you take out a sub to Ancestry, check if your local public library subscribes to the library edition. This would give you access to the Canadian records, including images, but not trees (if I remember correctly). Original images would be available for the records we have quoted to you herein.
You can access Canadian censuses for free at this link....
https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/Pages/census.aspx
And this one....
http://automatedgenealogy.com
To add to my note about the Drouin Collection, if you go back far enough in the Drouin Collection you will get into the Tanguay (sp?) Collection which is also apparently on line.
PB
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sorry for the delay in answering !!
Thanks to all for your great help ,no luck with the local Lib. for Ancestry nearest one is 150km from my home so a subscription it will be
Huey1
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If you have any problems finding the records we have quoted, please let us know. Sometimes one needs to be a bit creative when searching through the Drouin Collection.
PB
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Hi
Thanks for that great offer of assistance I'am sure I will need it as I will be attempting to find info on other branches of the family.
huey1
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Hi all
I'am back looking for help once more for my wife's tree ,I have subscribed to Ancestry and have had lots of success in finding info even though the records are sometimes hard to read and there are lots of discrepencies with the many family trees but I am stopped in trying to find what happened to my wife's Grandfather Joseph Aime Elie Coulombe.
He was the son of Mederic Coulombe 1855-1903 and Catherine Duchesne 1856- ? Joseph was B 09Apr1883 M 12jul1909 to Ernestine Doiron B07Oct1883 Gaspe and he D03Sep1940 .I find him on the 1911 census age 28 with Ernestine and son Rosario 1909-1979 my wife father, living at 281 Amboise St Montreal . I have been unable to find him on the 1891,1901 or 1921 census.
one other odd thing is on the 1911 census at 283 Amboise is someone B1861 age 50 along with what looks like the brothers and sister of Elie I cant come up with any info on who this person would be ,thanks for any help
huey1
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While pursuing someone in my own family tree, an individual named Lauretta Bolduc came up. I did not investigate the Bolduc connection any further because it was entirely peripheral to my own interest. However, I did find that Lauretta Bolduc was born 1928 in Maine. Her parents were Adelard O. Bolduc [b. 1896, Beauceville, Quebec, Canada] and Angeline Deraps-Roux [b. abt 1902 in Maine]. Maybe these Bolducs connect to yours in some way. See replies #9 and 10 in the following thread:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=755450.0
Here is the marriage certificate of interest:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G93H-39TJ-V?i=81&cc=1804002
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Lovell's Montreal Directory has a 1911-12 entry under Coulombe for a Mrs Cath widow Mederic at 283 St Ambroise and Elie can be found listed at number 281 the following year, his mother still next door. I think the address written in the 1911 census has been rather garbled by the enumerator.
The 1911 entry looks like Catherine Mm(?) to me.
The directory is free to use....
http://bibnum2.bnquebec.ca/bna/lovell/
PB
Edited to add: here is the family in 1901. Click on split view at the top to see the original image.
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/View.jsp?id=43417&highlight=27&desc=1901+Census+of+Canada+page+containing+Mederique+Coulombe
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Continuing.....
Here is Elie and family in 1921, now at 345 St Ambroise. Last family on the page.
http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1921&op=img&id=e003112108
Looks like another child at the top of the next page.
http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1921&op=img&id=e003112109
PB
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Sorry for the delay in answering
Erato, thx for the info on Lauretta Bolduc so far no connection that I have come across ,there sure are lots of Bolduc's
polarbear Thx for the Lovell's info on Catherine ,when looking at the 1911 census again it does look like Catherine ,what threw me was that they have the gender as male and I have her birth or bap. as Apr1856 which would make her 55 not as Nov1861 age 50 ,I see they have made a correction on
Automatedgeneology to read Catherine not Calvin
I am not sure what I am doing wrong but I still cant bring up the 1921 census page for Elie and family or the other page with the additional child.her name looks like ???anne age 6
lots more digging to do
huey1
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Hi there...
Are the links I posted for the 1921 census not working for you?
I can't tell you how Ancestry might have the family indexed. I only found them by using the Lovell's Directory, address section, to find neighbors and eventually found them that way :).
I think the little girl might be named Mignonne.
PB
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Hi
That's the strange thing the links work fine so I can see the info that you posted but unable bring the page up when opening the census page on my own to search .I hvent had any problems at any other time I have searched for other info so I don't know what I am doing any different
huey1
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OK, so I guess the next question is "where are you trying to bring a page up from"? A different source? Perhaps I can try to figure out your problem?
PB
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I have tried on Ancestry and also on the regular Govt site
in both cases I am on Google Chrome
huey1
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OK, then...
I used Alfred Lambert (near neighbor from Lovell's Directory) to find Elie on the Gov't site. Then I used Alfred's age info and location Montreal to find him on Ancestry so I could check the next page and then back to the Gov't site for the link.
Hope this makes sense?
Chrome should work fine, I would think.
PB
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And....
I have now found Mignonne Coulombe indexed as same on Ancestry and her father as Elia Cardamone; rest of the family on the first page also as Cardamone.
PB
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strange things going on !!
I just uses Alfred Lambert to search 1921 census on Ancestry and the page in question that i cant find using Elie popped up like normal ,amazing
huey1
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Hi polarbear
Strange that the enumerator would have the correct name for the daugh.Mignonne age 11 staying at the same address as her family and have the family listed as Cardamone
huey1
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I think it's more a case of the transcriber reading the word as Cardamore. It is very poorly written on the first page. I had trouble digging Coulombe out when I actually knew what the name was after I found them.
PB