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Title: Andrew Nicoll Margaret Sim
Post by: Wendy2305 on Thursday 11 October 18 03:05 BST (UK)
Looking for any information on Andrew Nicoll (Nichol) and Margaret Sim (Sime Syme) to tie up some more loose ends

What I do have is Andrew is the son of Andrew and Ann Nicoll ms Nicoll b 1856 and married Margaret Sim in 1881 in Barry Angus Scotland They had 5 children between 1883 and 1889 all born Dundee

Margaret 1883
Annie 1884
Andrew 1885
Susan 1888
Agnes 1889

Margaret Sim was born c 1854 in Carmylie Angus parents John Sim and Margaret Fleming

I have found the family emigrating  to Canada arriving in 1915 at Quebec on board the Scandinavion and in the 1916 Canadian Census in Manitobia https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KMPW-TDT
and the death of their son Andrew in 1958 in Burnaby British Columbia wife Elizabeth Dobbie
Thanks
Title: Re: Andrew Nicoll Margaret Sim
Post by: RunKitty on Thursday 11 October 18 04:21 BST (UK)
1921 census Andrew is in Winnipeg with daughter Annie and her husband Samuel Miller.  Andrew is a widower.  (see lines 35-37)

http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1921&op=img&id=e002892907

RK
Title: Re: Andrew Nicoll Margaret Sim
Post by: RunKitty on Thursday 11 October 18 04:23 BST (UK)
Manitoba death index has a death for Margaret Nicoll, aged 62, in Winnipeg on 02/04/1918

https://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/ListView.php

RK
Title: Re: Andrew Nicoll Margaret Sim
Post by: RunKitty on Thursday 11 October 18 04:35 BST (UK)
THe Manitoba index has the marriage of Andrew Nicoll and Elizabeth Dobbie in Winnipeg on 24/09/1919.

There is also a marriage for an Agnes Aime Nicoll to Thomas Moir Morrison in Winnipeg on 25/10/1917

There are a couple of possibilities for Margaret.

RK
Title: Re: Andrew Nicoll Margaret Sim
Post by: RunKitty on Thursday 11 October 18 04:43 BST (UK)
Manitoba Vital Statistics Index also has a death for an Andrew Nicoll, aged 69, in Winnipeg on 15/07/1925. 

RK
Title: Re: Andrew Nicoll Margaret Sim
Post by: Wendy2305 on Thursday 11 October 18 04:46 BST (UK)
Thank you for this RK
Title: Re: Andrew Nicoll Margaret Sim
Post by: RunKitty on Thursday 11 October 18 04:49 BST (UK)
Winnipeg Free Press on July 20, 1925....a very short obituary for Andrew Nicoll.  He was 69, lived at 343 Bartlett Ave.  He died on July 15, 1925.  No family members are mentioned.  Says he will be interred in Elmwood Cemetery. 

RK

Title: Re: Andrew Nicoll Margaret Sim
Post by: RunKitty on Thursday 11 October 18 04:51 BST (UK)
You are welcome :) :)

RK
Title: Re: Andrew Nicoll Margaret Sim
Post by: RunKitty on Thursday 11 October 18 05:55 BST (UK)
Found an obituary in the Winnipeg Free Press for Mrs Agnes Sime Morrison (so the Manitoba Vital Statistics site is incorrect in saying Aime)... she died April 25 1957 at Grace hospital.  She was 67 years old.  Her address had been 1163 Ingersoll St.  She is survived by husband Thomas Moir, one daughter Mrs George Harris and one son Colin, two sisters - Mrs Samuel Millar and Mrs R Foster, one brother Andrew Nicoll and two grandchildren.  Interment Elmwood Cemetery. 

Winnipeg Free Press April 25 1957 page 6

RK
Title: Re: Andrew Nicoll Margaret Sim
Post by: RunKitty on Thursday 11 October 18 06:15 BST (UK)
Looking at the Manitoba Vital Statistics site, there is a marriage for Susie Nicoll to Robert Foster in Winnipeg on 8/12/1920.  Likely the Mrs R Foster mentioned in Agnes's obit

RK
Title: Re: Andrew Nicoll Margaret Sim
Post by: RunKitty on Thursday 11 October 18 06:29 BST (UK)
Obit for Robert Foster - he died Aug 5 1955 in Transcona, Manitoba.  Husband of Susan.  Address was 204 Victoria Ave E.  He was 69.  Interment Elmwood Cemetery.

If they lived in Transcona... this could be Robert and Susan in 1921
  http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1921&op=img&id=e002888597

RK
Title: Re: Andrew Nicoll Margaret Sim
Post by: Wendy2305 on Thursday 11 October 18 11:32 BST (UK)
Thanks again RunKitty Looking at Elmwood Cemetery it looks like Susan died Feb 1967 Have found Roberts burial and there is a Susan is the same section slot
Title: Re: Andrew Nicoll Margaret Sim
Post by: RunKitty on Thursday 11 October 18 15:39 BST (UK)
Good :)

I can see from the cemetery site that Andrew and Margaret S are in the same plot.  His date of burial fits with his short obit - and there is a note in the paper on July 20th 1925 saying that his funeral is being held "today".   The death year from the obit and from the Manitoba Vital stats page is 1925, but the cemetery says burial on July 20 1928.  Odd.  Must be a clerical error.

Margaret S died in 1918 - according to the Manitoba Vital stats index, and the fact that Andrew is a widower on the 1921 census.  However, the burial date listed on the cemetery site is 7/17/1925!   A mystery - unless they bought the plot later and had her moved in 1925 after her husband died, so she could be buried with him??

RK
Title: Re: Andrew Nicoll Margaret Sim
Post by: Wendy2305 on Thursday 11 October 18 17:07 BST (UK)
yeah I noticed the difference in death and burial years wasn't sure if they were the same couple wasn't sure if all burials had been recordered or not