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Title: Help! Who is this marriage witness
Post by: clairec666 on Thursday 11 October 18 07:46 BST (UK)

Any ideas appreciated. I think it may be M V Frith, but I wanted some more opinions :)

Title: Re: Help! Who is this marriage witness
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 11 October 18 07:50 BST (UK)

Where and when was the marriage

Title: Re: Help! Who is this marriage witness
Post by: clairec666 on Thursday 11 October 18 08:03 BST (UK)

Quote from: rosie99 on Thursday 11 October 18 07:50 BST (UK)

Where and when was the marriage

Purleigh, Essex, in 1932

Title: Re: Help! Who is this marriage witness
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 11 October 18 08:21 BST (UK)

Thank you.   There is a death of a Mary V Frith after that marriage in the right area but I am not convinced that is what it says.

I think the first letter of the surname is possibly an L  - Lict...  :-\

Title: Re: Help! Who is this marriage witness
Post by: arthurk on Thursday 11 October 18 11:24 BST (UK)

I'm pretty sure the second letter is 'r', then 'e' or 'i', followed by 't'.

The first letter is consistent with some styles of 'F', and the last one could be 'h' with a severely shortened stem.

So Frith could well be correct - I can't at the moment think of anything more likely.

Title: Re: Help! Who is this marriage witness
Post by: iforani on Thursday 11 October 18 12:52 BST (UK)

Could you maybe copy some more of the text of the certificate (for comparison of letters and writing style) including the names of those married (which we might be able to cross check with a transcribed record)? Thanks?

Title: Re: Help! Who is this marriage witness
Post by: Girl Guide on Thursday 11 October 18 15:47 BST (UK)

If Frith is correct, is this the marriage?

Marriages Jun 1932   
Frith    Florence E    Raven    Maldon    4a   1589    
Raven    Christopher W    Frith    Maldon    4a   1589

Title: Re: Help! Who is this marriage witness
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 11 October 18 16:39 BST (UK)

Also the possible marriage to match the death I mentioned earlier

Marriage Mar qtr 1907   
FRITH    Alfred Joseph       
GOWERS    Mary Vera       
Braintree    4a   1128

Title: Re: Help! Who is this marriage witness
Post by: Girl Guide on Thursday 11 October 18 16:59 BST (UK)

So that might suggest that mum signed as a witness.

Mary and Alfred are in Maldon in 1939.

Title: Re: Help! Who is this marriage witness
Post by: clairec666 on Thursday 11 October 18 18:48 BST (UK)

Thanks all for your suggestions

Quote from: iforani on Thursday 11 October 18 12:52 BST (UK)

Could you maybe copy some more of the text of the certificate (for comparison of letters and writing style) including the names of those married (which we might be able to cross check with a transcribed record)? Thanks?

The couple are Christopher William Raven and Florence Edna Frith, married 14/5/1932, Purleigh, Essex (in Maldon district). I'm guessing the witness is a Frith relative, but I'm sticking to the mantra of "type" what you see and I can't be 100% sure it says Frith!

Title: Re: Help! Who is this marriage witness
Post by: clairec666 on Thursday 11 October 18 18:50 BST (UK)

Here's the whole record. I notice the bride does her "F" in a similar way to the witness...

Title: Re: Help! Who is this marriage witness
Post by: Girl Guide on Thursday 11 October 18 18:58 BST (UK)

So A J Frith and M V Frith are going to be her parents then.  They are both on the 1939 in Maldon.

Their marriage was found by Rosie99.

Added: Both sets of parents have acted as witnesses.